The mysterious Mr Marsden

[jonwarrn]

Another crew list on Ancestry. NSW Unassisted
"River Falloch", arriving Sydney in April 1895, from Liverpool

Also a transcription on Mariners and Ships in Australian Waters
http://marinersandships.com.au/1895/04/018riv.htm

Includes the unfortunate lad William Croysdale.

[mckha489]

Report of his of his death. May 10, 1902 - Liverpool Weekly Courier
Says he was a “native of Wolverhampton “

[effagee]

I notice that the 1896 marriage was by Licence.  Have you attempted to track down the Bond and/or Allegation associated with this?  They may or may not be helpful. 

Oh, no I haven't, but thankyou it might be worth checking

[effagee]

No GRO index for Arthur in Staffordshire but many elsewhere.

Colin

Hi Colin, yes this is the disheartening bit, all the lancs and yorks (and beyond) records on the GRO I have pretty much eliminated as possibilities. I'm wondering if he was illegitimate registered under mothers name and perhaps assumed paternal name later on, but how to find out?

[effagee]

Thanks for the welcome, the shipping info is very interesting, and probably is my Arthur. I never thought to look further afield as I had no proof he did anything other than local work til now.
The Lisbonese crew list does point to long hall trips so I guess he was away a lot. Ironically, after his death Hannah remarried, had 4 more kids and they emigrated to Australia ~1912. I wonder if tales of Aus put the idea in Hannah's head.

Still, Wolverhampton, but no trace in Staffs for now.

Welcome to Rootschat.
For general info
Marriage 30 March 1896 in Liverpool
Arthur was 34, Sailmaker, residence 34 Strand Street
Image
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L93N-X9KQ-N

Baptism of daughter Elizabeth Maud, 22 Oct 1900
Abode Denison St. Arthur still a Sailmaker
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9YL-GQDP-F

The Liverpool crew list may be the Lisbonense in 1901
A Marsden, 40, born W'hampton, home address 41 Denison St. Last ship Bernard. Capacity AB.

You would think his occupation would help.
Another crew list on Ancestry. NSW Unassisted
"River Falloch", arriving Sydney in April 1895, from Liverpool
Arthur Marsden, Station Sails, 33, of what nation America

Could it be him?

[Capetown]

Looking at the tree on Ancestry.....

On his Marriage 30 March 1896 - Arthur gives his age as 34 years
On his Burial 4 June 1902 - Arthur's age is given as 41 years.

?  Assume therefore, his birthday must have been between 30 March and 4 June 1861 i.e. second quarter....  and his father John could have worked in any County on the Railways, and children born in different Counties (as my family did).

[Willow 4873]

There is a John Marsden employed by London and North Western Railways station listed as Hampton (expanded to Wolverhampton by someone but not convinced its right) resident 14.11.1856 and a J Marsden (porter) dismissed from service in 1860 who was working at Colwich

Willow x

[Willow 4873]

There are several Arthur Marstons registered under the Wolverhampton district I wonder if the name has migrated slightly

Arthur Edwin 1859 - parents William & Eliza
Arthur 1859 - parents Charles & Fanny
Arthur Albert Leonard 1862 - died 1863
William Arthur 1862 - parents Jonah & Cecilia
Arthur James 1864
Arthur Charles Williams 1865 = parents Edward & Charlotte

Willow x

[PatLac]

IF on 4 April 1895 Arthur's age was given as 33 ... http://marinersandships.com.au/1895/04/018riv.htm

AND on the 9 April 1895 newspaper clipping his age is given as 34...  https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/108088397


his birthday would have been between 5 and 9 April!