My Grandfather the elusive Charles Duff

[Carl Chorley]

Hmmm!
Ok I persuaded my mum to do a Ancestry DNA test some Months ago and was disappointed that no results came through.
I thought it had got lost in the post, however a few said it could take up to 4 months for any result.
However DNA results arrived but we were not aware.
So she has 2 matches of 5% and 6%.
The 6% match turned out to be her mums sisters Grandson. He literally lives around the corner from me. He is hoping to meet up with my mum to help him with that side of the family for his research, so that's great she can help him at least.

The 5% match I could only partially see their tree, however it does contain the family names of Duff.
How these relate to Mum I'm not sure. The person whom she is connected with doesn't appear to be active to ask.
They have the following Duffs
Gideon Duff 1875 -1944
Alice Millicent Duff 1907-1966
Both seem to hale from Edmonton.
Alice dying in Victoria, Australia.
So I'm wondering how/if they are related to Grandad Duff and of course my mum.
So I really need someone who has those in a family tree in the vague hope of gleaning something useful.

Thank you all again for your patience with me.

[garstonite]

here is Gideon - with father - also Gideon - the dad was born Scotland


https://www.rootspoint.com/record/1881-UK-Census/Gideon-Duff-1875-London-St-Mary-Islington/5ee24681-ea78-475c-95ef-df0cbeeadb8c/

looks like Gideon b 1875 was born in 49 Alsen Road , St Mary's ,Islington ,London

[sparrett]

Gideon DUFF was the father of Alice Millicent.

She married  Roy James Stanton FYFFE and died in Victoria in 1966.


Sue

[Girl Guide]

Alice Millicent had a brother called Charles:-

DUFF, CHARLES  GEORGE     BEAUMONT 
GRO Reference: 1904  M Quarter in EDMONTON  Volume 03A  Page 436

[djm297]

In  1911 Gideon Duff ( transcribed on FindMyPast as Gibson) is in Hornsey Middlesex with his family- including a son- Charles George, born 1905 in Hornsey....and Alice Millicent born 1908 Marylebone.

djm297

[garstonite]

brilliant - but it puts  Carls grandmother as 21 and Charles at 39 during their liason ...old enough to be her dad - not slightly older as Carl was told - MAYBE Carls g grandmothers resentment of Charles was because of his age - probably closer to the g grandmothers age than her daughters ??

[sparrett]

When Gideon Duff senior enlisted, he listed his children on his records.

[Girl Guide]

Looks as though Charles married a Violet Howes

Marriages Sep 1928   
Duff    Charles G    Howes    Edmonton    3a   1584    
HOWES    Violet M    DUFF    Edmonton    3a   1584

This couple are on the 1939, no children with them and his occupation doesn't bear any relation to a bookies runner.  He could have had that as a side occupation.

[aghadowey]

Continuing with the above Charles George Duff-

Married 5 Aug.1928 at Hornsey Parish Church to Violet Maud Howes (both age 25). Charles is bachelor, bakers roundsman, address- 13 Boynton? Road, father Gideon Duff a mason.

From other sources Charles George Duff was born 1 Jan.1904. His father's WWI record lists 7 children (including Charles George & Alice). Charles George Duff died 17 Jan.1963 according to probate book-
1963. DUFF Charles George of 16? The Campsbourne Hornsey London H.8 died 17 January 1963 at Whittington Hospital Highgate Wing London N.19 Administration London 8 March to Violet Maud Duff widow. Effects £421 12s.
Note: Administration means there was no Will involved.

Added- Violet Maud Duff born 28 Dec.1902 death registered July 1993 Haringey.