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Re: Boom Hall / Boomhall information
« Reply #9 on: Friday 04 June 21 10:51 BST (UK) »
Re the birth of a David in reply #1, it seems he sadly didn't live very long, per cemetery record:

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David Doherty   Richard and Eliza Doherty   Bay View, Caw   Bay View      28 May 1868   29 May 1868

Burial is in a grave with surnames Reeves and McKinney, a Reeves being proprietor, so possibly some of Eliza's family.
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« Reply #10 on: Friday 04 June 21 11:24 BST (UK) »
If the Richard who died at Pine Street in 1893  https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/d523d83920000 was the one who was married to Eliza Reeves, this is possibly her nearby at 1901 (should read Ebrington Terrace):

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Waterside/Elrington_Terrace/1540217/

and a possible death in 1906, albeit age a bit out:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/4fca804837403

The age of the 1893 death Richard would be too young to be a possibility for the same Richard of the 1846 marriage to Sarah, but then the death age may not be accurate.
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Re: Boom Hall / Boomhall information
« Reply #11 on: Friday 04 June 21 12:00 BST (UK) »
The Alexander Doherty who married Annie Osborne in 1893, was in Belfast with her and their children by 1901:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Duncairn_Ward/Marvue_Street/959055/ (should read Mervue Street).

first couple of children born Londonderry, rest born Belfast.

Still there in 1911:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Duncairn/Mervue_St/141677/

Although a painter in both, a Londonderry Sentinel article in 1946, says that before working for such at LMS Railways, he had, in his youth, been employed at the Sentinel. It goes on to mention that he himself was baptised at All Saints Church, Clooney and that his father was buried at Glendermott Parish Church graveyard. At the time of the article, eight of his and Annie's 12 children were still alive, some having served in WW1, as had he.
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Re: Boom Hall / Boomhall information
« Reply #12 on: Friday 04 June 21 12:09 BST (UK) »
Just for ease of reference, the 1901 census you mentioned for John Dogherty:


http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Clifton/Rosapenna_Street/962848/

who by then was also in Belfast.

And for 1911:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Clifton/Southport_Street/147085/
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Re: Boom Hall / Boomhall information
« Reply #13 on: Friday 04 June 21 12:16 BST (UK) »
Not in respect of your current search, but with mention of Southport Street, and in case you don't have it:

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.      DOHERTY—December 7. 1952 (suddenly), at his residence. 66 Southport Street. Frederick H. dearly-loved husband of Isobel Doherty   


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.   WELL-KNOWN MASON DIES IN BELFAST The death occurred at his residence.) 66 Southport Street. Belfast. on Sunday. of Mr. Frederick H. Doherty. for many years a prominent figure in Masonic circles. On Saturday he was at his work as linotype ...   


per  Belfast Telegraph.
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Re: Boom Hall / Boomhall information
« Reply #14 on: Friday 04 June 21 12:21 BST (UK) »
And...

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.   Doherty—May 21, 1937, at the Thompson Memorial Home, Lisburn, Margaret, widow of John Doherty (late 66, Southport Street). Funeral private   

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.   DEATHS Doherty— March I. 1936, at the Royal Victoria Hospital, John, beloved husband of Margaret Doherty (late Belfast News-Letter ”). Funeral' from his late residence, 66, Southport Street, to-day   

per Belfast Newsletter

As you no doubt know, it seems that for a long time, John had been foreman of the jobbing department at the Belfast Newsletter, retiring about 7 years before his death. He had also worked at the Newry Telegraph (explains the children being born around the country).
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Re: Boom Hall / Boomhall information
« Reply #15 on: Friday 04 June 21 17:35 BST (UK) »

As you no doubt know, it seems that for a long time, John had been foreman of the jobbing department at the Belfast Newsletter, retiring about 7 years before his death. He had also worked at the Newry Telegraph (explains the children being born around the country).

Now where on earth did you find this info  :o

I have lots of dates & info for John & Margaret Dogherty and their family, and although I knew John was a printer/compositor I’ve never come across anything online which listed his job title & employer before  ?  ???
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Re: Boom Hall / Boomhall information
« Reply #16 on: Friday 04 June 21 21:50 BST (UK) »

Here's an interesting article about the development of Boom Hall.
https://www.edenproject.com/eden-story/our-ethos/eden-project-foyle


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Re: Boom Hall / Boomhall information
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 06 June 21 23:52 BST (UK) »
Just a quick update..

I'd messaged the Boom Hall Trust in May 2021 to see if they held, or knew of any records, for staff at Boom Hall for the mid 1800's. I then put my post on here in June, which generated loads of new information which I'd previously been unaware of.

Boom Hall trust replied last night to suggest they might be able to help and asked me to supply whatever information I had, in order to try to help locate my ancestors.

I was able to provide the names and dates of birth which Scotmum and Gaffy had been able to source and provided on this thread, and now I'm waiting to hear back from the Trust.

I've no idea if they'll be able to supply any more information, but I know without the answers provided to my original post, I'd only have had minimal information to supply.

Thank you in advance, and I'll let you know how I get on. :-)
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