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Census 1841 Interpretation
« on: Monday 17 May 21 20:15 BST (UK) »
I'm trying to interpret the census form for this family - I note they were not born in Gloucestershire, but where it says "Scotland, Ireland or Foreign parts" there is merely a check rather than an S or an I.
Does anyone know the meaning of this? There are many of these checks on the forms.

Many thanks for any suggestions.

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Re: Census 1841 Interpretation
« Reply #1 on: Monday 17 May 21 20:29 BST (UK) »
I would imagine it just indicates they were born in 'Scotland, Ireland or Foreign Parts' -- wherever that may be.

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Re: Census 1841 Interpretation
« Reply #2 on: Monday 17 May 21 20:30 BST (UK) »
Looks like an "S" to me? ;)
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Re: Census 1841 Interpretation
« Reply #3 on: Monday 17 May 21 21:28 BST (UK) »
Quote from: KGarrad on Monday 17 May 21 20:30 BST (UK)
Looks like an "S" to me? ;)

It's just down the page from lots of check marks that are similar though I admit these are less clear - I don't think they are Ss. The instruction given to the census takers indicated they were to say whether there were S for Scotland, I for Ireland or other foreign born. All they give everyone are checks...

But thank you for having  a look.

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« Reply #4 on: Monday 17 May 21 21:51 BST (UK) »
I just checked the entire district for those marks - there were two Ss and three Fs. Every other person not born in the county of Gloucestershire got a check mark. So the checks are mysterious.

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Re: Census 1841 Interpretation
« Reply #5 on: Monday 17 May 21 23:17 BST (UK) »
Quote from: dave62448 on Monday 17 May 21 21:51 BST (UK)
I just checked the entire district for those marks - there were two Ss and three Fs. Every other person not born in the county of Gloucestershire got a check mark. So the checks are mysterious.
If they are there for all "Out Of County" not "Out of Country", then could they maybe be tally marks entered when adding up for stats purposes?

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Re: Census 1841 Interpretation
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 18 May 21 15:10 BST (UK) »
Thanks, that's what I've come to interpret it as.  I noted that when there were a number of Fs for Foreign  and two written out as France (so even more foreign!).

But I think you are correct as to just checking them off.

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Re: Census 1841 Interpretation
« Reply #7 on: Friday 25 June 21 19:31 BST (UK) »
I'm still struggling to find a birth for this James Wilton - What are the chances that the N for not born in county is simply a mistake and he was born in Gloucestershire (though Martha and Mary were born in Glamorganshire)? I can't find anyone of that name in the entire British Isles in the 20 years around that date except a couple in Gloucestershire.

I don't know where to turn....

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Re: Census 1841 Interpretation
« Reply #8 on: Friday 25 June 21 20:14 BST (UK) »
Using the Forest of Dean records as well as Ancestry.....

James WILTON buried 17 May 1847 - aged 83 - residence: Redbrook

Marriage at Dixton -31 May 1844

Charles HEBERT - full age - Widower, Malster, residence: Redbrook
(father: Thomas HERBERT, farmer)
Elizabeth WILTON - full age - Spinster, residence Redbrook
(father: James WILTON) - roll kturner

witnesses: George WATKINS and Mary WATKINS

1851 Census, Newland, Upper Redbrook

Charles HERBERT - 43 - married, Brewer & Malster -  for LLangot, Monmouthshire
Elizabeth HERBERT - Wife - married, aged 52 - born Cardiff, Glamorganshire
John WILTON - Servant - 16 born Redbrook, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth WILTON - Servant - unmarried - aged 20 born Redbrook, Gloucestershire.


(there are quite a few WILTON's listed on the Forest of Dean records) - and it would seem - John and Elizabeth WILTON - are possible relatives.

(Elizabeth is aged 40 - age rounded off 1841 census) and born in Cardiff, Glamorganshire.
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