Author Topic: Which alias is real . Lacey , Wharton or Dobson , 1913 , habitual criminal Reg .  (Read 1750 times)

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Hi Mabel I didn't know that about the wounds or that it was prior to the battle of Somme as it says he is buried nearby . I better do some war history as well .  He was married and had three daughters it is interesting it was only the one that inherited . Maybe she knew where the loot was buried .  I am trying to find the attestation papers for Arthur Ernest Wharton and his nephew , Alfred Henry Wharton .my grandfather to try and identify the Alfred Lacey with the four alibis . I have seen the tattoo words . Love ARW before  but don't know where . Until now I didn't know how important every little detail is needed to be written down . But then I also didn't know my family of great uncles and 2 Nd cousins were habitual criminals either . On my other side a distant relative got transported to Australia . Not un usual you may say but he was transported TWICE .. and three years later he stood to inherit three houses and properties in St Thomas Apostle.  .
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How old is your Alfred Henry ? There's a pension record for one b c1880 and living in Paddington area  (he didn;t get a pension - invalided out owing to piles) This chap was a railway loader, hence my not being sure abot him

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Hi , Alfred Henry Wharton was my grandad , born Oct . 1882, . Piles was a nice way of saying a raging case of Syphlisis. Which is on his army records , so going by the tattoos of Alfred Lacey and Alfred four alibis we can discount it is my grandfather Alfred Henry Wharton . Alfred Henry Wharton is the Arthur Ernest Wharton  we are looking at younger brother ... my cousin and I are trying to track down each mans  tattoos . Nothing is easy as we can’t find AN ACTUAL ALFRED LACEY in our tree .. there might be some who use their second name Alfred so we are looking for the 1877 birthdate timeline . What all these alias have in common is they are upholsterers . T.y ,
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 ;) Fred. I’m not sure that the army would say “piles” when they meant “syphyllis” .... I think they would tell it like it was.  ;D

Good to see that some more details have been unearthed about your elusive family, though you still don’t have all the answers.  :)


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You are right , I am going to see if there were two Alfred Henry Wharton in Paddington ,,, in my grandfather army report which I do think he served but was often AWOL it said he had a Conglomerate ? ( which when I googled could well be a nasty set of piles ) . As result of Syphilises which he admitted to having caught years early . My grandmother his wife was Emma and at times they lived in Waverley road . I have never known him to be a railway porter BUT for some unknown reason I haven't done much research on him . I think there is a resentment that has trickled down in our family . He is very rarely mentioned . I will do more research ,,, thank you for your help . Fred .m
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I think the word could be  ‘Condylomata’ not conglomerate.
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Re: Which alias is real . Lacey , Wharton or Dobson , 1913 , habitual criminal Reg .
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 10 October 24 14:52 BST (UK) »
Hi I am sure you are right . Either way it sounds painful . He refused an operation in his army records . Fred .
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