Author Topic: Which alias is real . Lacey , Wharton or Dobson , 1913 , habitual criminal Reg .  (Read 1758 times)

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Today I discovered a relative in the habitual criminal register 1913 , he was guilty of carrying house breaking tools and got 12 months in Wormwood scrubs ,,,, unfortunately he used four aliases so I am not sure who he is exactly . All names involved are in the family so he was using cousins or brother in law names . The name he was sentenced as was Alfred Lacey ,( my great grandmother was Sarah Lacey ) . His first alias is Arthur Wharton (my great grandfather was Robert Hine Wharton . The other two names were Arthur And Ernst Dobson who are brother in laws or cousins . The address is Waverley Road Harrow Road and occupation was mattress maker . My entire family were mattress makers for Fox Furniture and they lived in Waverley . Road . My brother and two uncles were named after him and IF it is Arthur Ernest Wharton he died on the Somme . Could someone look up who was living in Waverley Road in 1913 of those names please . Thanks Fred ,
valentine.fairhurst,hayes,hammond,codling,rust.norfolk.deyrujo.jutsum.wharton.lacey,probert,prickett,preby atherley-jones.clifton ..london /china. judd, eubank , dixon , hine , airey ,park .twentyman , dampier , jones in suffolk , limby , derrick , stockwell..

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I presume you've already found Robert Wharton, Sarah and the family in the 1911 census, living at 62 Waverley Road, Paddington?

I don't know if there is any way to find who was living there in 1913.

Do you have a date of birth for Alfred?

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Have you looked at the attestation papers for the chap who died on the Somme to see where he was living when he signed up?

Also, next year there is the 1921 census release - guess there's a chance they could be at Waverley Road then.

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In the 1901 census Robert Wharton has a wife called Annie, plus four children which look to be the same as those in 1911 - address is 39 Waverley Road. Are Sarah and Annie and one and the same?


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Maybe you could search in one or more of the online directories for the time frame you are looking http://specialcollections.le.ac.uk/digital/collection/p16445coll4/search/searchterm/London/field/place/mode/exact/conn/and/order/nosort
Leicestershire:Chamberlain, Dakin, Wilkinson, Moss, Cook, Welland, Dobson, Roper,Palfreman, Squires, Hames, Goddard, Topliss, Twells,Bacon.
Northamps:Sykes, Harris, Rice,Knowles.
Rutland:Clements, Dalby, Osbourne, Durance, Smith,Christian, Royce, Richardson,Oakham, Dewey,Newbold,Cox,Chamberlaine,Brow, Cooper, Bloodworth,Clarke
Durham/Yorks:Woodend, Watson,Parker, Dowser
Suffolk/Norfolk:Groom, Coleman, Kemp, Barnard, Alden,Blomfield,Smith,Howes,Knight,Kett,Fryston
Lincolnshire:Clements, Woodend

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Piece in newspapers refers to  3 "Maida Vale suspects", Alfred Lacey, mattress Maker,  Walter Lacey Upholsterer and H Bentley, upholsterer.
No other distinguishing details.
Criminal registers have Ernest Dobson alias ArthurWharton in 1911 address 44 Harris Street Kilburn.

The Arthur Ernest Whartonwho died in the war appears to have had a will, I wonder if that might shed some light on possible relatives.
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Wills?Surname=wharton&SurnameGrants=wharton&YearOfDeath=1916&YearOfDeathGrants=1916&IsGrantSearch=False&IsCalendarSearch=False#soldiers

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Clements,Coles,Mc Donagh,Rock

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Hi . Yes the family definitely lived in Waverley Road .Robert and Sarah are the parents of these errant sons . . Sarah was Sarah Anna Lacey before marriage , aka Annie .. so it appears that Arthur Ernest Wharton born 1877.  died WW1 was using the name Alfred Lacey . In the paper article there is a Walter Lacey he is cousin . The more I find the more confusing because of the alibis . I think that I will have to accept that the group used alibis at will interchanging names between themselves . I will dig deeper . Thank you for your help .  NB , there is a difference between Ernest Dobson aka as Arthur Wharton and Alfred Lacey who used Arthur Wharton and Ernest and Arthur Dobson because the tattoos are different .
valentine.fairhurst,hayes,hammond,codling,rust.norfolk.deyrujo.jutsum.wharton.lacey,probert,prickett,preby atherley-jones.clifton ..london /china. judd, eubank , dixon , hine , airey ,park .twentyman , dampier , jones in suffolk , limby , derrick , stockwell..

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1912 electoral register has a Robert Wharton at 62 Waverley Road (also listed John Boddington), than at no 20 in 1915 along with Thomas Josiah Mason and Ebenezer Burton

YOU have to remember that at this time not even all men had the vote, so the others in the family may not show  up.


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Arthur Ernest who died in April 1916 (before the Battle of the Somme itself commenced on 1 July) had a daughter and sole legatee Rosina

Have found another source - died of wounds age 39, son of Robert Hine Wharton and Sarah Ann of London  (indexed as A E Wharton)