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The son of Sir George Rooke - George Rooke (1702-1739)
« Reply #99 on: Wednesday 09 June 21 16:53 BST (UK) »
Frances HARDRES was baptised 25 Mar 1683 at St Paul, Canterbury, dau of Thomas and Ursula.

She was buried 24 Aug 1688.

William HARDRES was bap 5 Aug 1686 at St Paul, Canterbury, son of Thomas and Ursula.
A few more details on findagrave
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/192253297/william-hardres
and this wikipedia article
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Hardres
Thank you for this interesting information.

I wonder under whose care George was until he went to Pembroke College aged 16?
Once he obtained his BA, I wonder what he did?
By then he was 18 years old.
We know he married aged 21.

Valuable information, thank you.

Error in Wiki, Ursula name spelt Ursua.

Error in FindaGrave, the surname is spelt Rook.
Ireland:-
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford
Ferrissey - Waterford
Mooney - Waterford
Murphy - Waterford
Phelan - Waterford
Power - Waterford
Veale - Waterford

England:-
Brandon - Liverpool
Beale (Hamblin/Hamblen) - London?
Reed - Bedfordshire
Turner - Luton
Taylor - Bedfordshire

Spain & Italy:-
Beneroso - Cadiz or Malaga, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Santos - Cadiz, Spain

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The son of Sir George Rooke - George Rooke (1702-1739)
« Reply #100 on: Wednesday 09 June 21 17:05 BST (UK) »

I wonder under whose care George was until he went to Pembroke College aged 16?
Once he obtained his BA, I wonder what he did?
By then he was 18 years old.
We know he married aged 21.

We also know he had a good 21st birthday party - from a previous thread:

"London, July 6.
   On Sunday last, George Rooke, Esq; eldest son to
the late Sir George Rooke, Knt. and Admiral, came
of Age. On which Occasion a very great Enter-
tainment was made at the Feathers Tavern in Cheap-
side."
July 6, 1723, The Daily Post

Another thanks to all those helping me with this.
I missed that post but it's really interesting to read of his 'Coming to Age' party.
Ireland:-
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford
Ferrissey - Waterford
Mooney - Waterford
Murphy - Waterford
Phelan - Waterford
Power - Waterford
Veale - Waterford

England:-
Brandon - Liverpool
Beale (Hamblin/Hamblen) - London?
Reed - Bedfordshire
Turner - Luton
Taylor - Bedfordshire

Spain & Italy:-
Beneroso - Cadiz or Malaga, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Santos - Cadiz, Spain

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« Reply #101 on: Wednesday 09 June 21 17:42 BST (UK) »
Might have mentioned this before, but knowing now who George snr's siblings were, I wonder whose death this was reported in 1725 - not Thomas or Finch?

"On Saturday last, Major-General Rooke, Brother to the
late Admiral Sir George Rooke, was bury'd at Isleworth in
Middlesex."
   Jan. 19, 1725, The Post Boy

As we know Admiral George only had one son George, who married The Hon. Frances Ward.
They had no children.

In Mr Ashe web site we can see https://www.ashefamily.info/ashefamily/6382.htm
Colonel Sir William Rooke (1624-1690) had these children:-
Admiral Sir George Rooke, Mary Rooke, Ursula Rooke, Ann Rooke, Captain Thomas Rooke, Jane Rooke and Finch Rooke.

I have never seen any mention before of a Major-General Rooke, being the brother of Admiral George Rooke (1650-1709).

Back to George Junior's life......
Ireland:-
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford
Ferrissey - Waterford
Mooney - Waterford
Murphy - Waterford
Phelan - Waterford
Power - Waterford
Veale - Waterford

England:-
Brandon - Liverpool
Beale (Hamblin/Hamblen) - London?
Reed - Bedfordshire
Turner - Luton
Taylor - Bedfordshire

Spain & Italy:-
Beneroso - Cadiz or Malaga, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Santos - Cadiz, Spain

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Re: The son of Sir George Rooke - George Rooke (1702-1739)
« Reply #102 on: Wednesday 09 June 21 17:48 BST (UK) »
Major-General Hayman Rooke was 1st cousin to Admiral Sir George Rooke according to catalogue description of a document collection "Rooke family of St. Briavels" dated 1671-1919 in Gloucestershire Archives.
https://www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/archives/
Located via National Archives Discovery catalogue https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk or by a search for Major-General Hayman Rooke 1653-1724.
The collection is of deeds and estate records of Bigsweir estate, St. Briavels, Newlands and Monmouthshire + miscellaneous records + correspondence of the Rooke family.
Creator: Rooke family of Mersham, Kent and of Bigsweir, Gloucestershire.
The Rooke family, originally from Mersham, Kent, acquired the Bigsweir estate by the 2nd marriage of Major James Rooke, son of Major-General Hayman Rooke, to Jane Catchmay, the heiress, in 1735.
Collection includes letters and order books + original letters received by Admiral Sir George Rooke "and Order Book of the Coldstream Guards probably belonging to Major-General Hayman Rooke, first cousin of the Admiral." "The Admiral's descendants do not figure in this collection and may have died out, though there are letters from a Lewis Rooke of Devon ..... giving his reasons for believing himself descended from the Admiral ....."

Thanks again for this very valuable information.
Also for clearing up the likely error of that old newspaper.
Ireland:-
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford
Ferrissey - Waterford
Mooney - Waterford
Murphy - Waterford
Phelan - Waterford
Power - Waterford
Veale - Waterford

England:-
Brandon - Liverpool
Beale (Hamblin/Hamblen) - London?
Reed - Bedfordshire
Turner - Luton
Taylor - Bedfordshire

Spain & Italy:-
Beneroso - Cadiz or Malaga, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Santos - Cadiz, Spain


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The son of Sir George Rooke - George Rooke (1702-1739)
« Reply #103 on: Wednesday 09 June 21 18:31 BST (UK) »
Part of the Rooke Family Tree.
The idea is to establish who was actually alive when young George was around.
Where his younger schooling was.
What family (if any) took care of him or had input into his upbringing.

So George and the period concerned in 1702 to 1739.

His mother died giving birth in July 1702.
His father had died in Jan. 1709.
His uncles Finch & Thomas were already dead.

So we have still have in play auntie Ursula, but she had only one surviving son, who died in 1736. Ursula died in 1707.

Then we have George's other aunts, Mary, Ann & Jane Rooke, but Jane had died in 1711.
Ireland:-
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford
Ferrissey - Waterford
Mooney - Waterford
Murphy - Waterford
Phelan - Waterford
Power - Waterford
Veale - Waterford

England:-
Brandon - Liverpool
Beale (Hamblin/Hamblen) - London?
Reed - Bedfordshire
Turner - Luton
Taylor - Bedfordshire

Spain & Italy:-
Beneroso - Cadiz or Malaga, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Santos - Cadiz, Spain

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Re: The son of Sir George Rooke - George Rooke (1702-1739)
« Reply #104 on: Wednesday 09 June 21 19:31 BST (UK) »
Thanks again for this very valuable information.
Also for clearing up the likely error of that old newspaper.

See also my reply #97.
Newspaper error may have been due to Hayman having a brother George.
Hayman's father was Lawrence born 1622, married Barbara Hayman. Lawrence was apparently a brother of William Rooke who was father of Admiral George. Their father was George Rooke (born 1580). 
Looking at Lawrence's profile on Ashe family website, his education was at Eton and Cambridge. He became a Fellow of Cambridge.
My guess is that George b. 1701 also attended Eton or a similar school. Possibly attended another preparatory boarding school from a young age. 
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« Reply #105 on: Wednesday 09 June 21 19:42 BST (UK) »
Thanks again for this very valuable information.
Also for clearing up the likely error of that old newspaper.

See also my reply #97.
Newspaper error may have been due to Hayman having a brother George.
Hayman's father was Lawrence born 1622, married Barbara Hayman. Lawrence was apparently a brother of William Rooke who was father of Admiral George. Their father was George Rooke (born 1580). 
Looking at Lawrence's profile on Ashe family website, his education was at Eton and Cambridge. He became a Fellow of Cambridge.
My guess is that George b. 1701 also attended Eton or a similar school. Possibly attended another preparatory boarding school from a young age.

Reply 97, was quite an interesting read and thank you.
As for George's early education.... i wonder....
There remains his early years before Pembroke College and then his life after he married The Hon. Frances Ward in Oct. 1723.

Never having used this web site how accurate is it?
https://www.familysearch.org/
Ireland:-
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford
Ferrissey - Waterford
Mooney - Waterford
Murphy - Waterford
Phelan - Waterford
Power - Waterford
Veale - Waterford

England:-
Brandon - Liverpool
Beale (Hamblin/Hamblen) - London?
Reed - Bedfordshire
Turner - Luton
Taylor - Bedfordshire

Spain & Italy:-
Beneroso - Cadiz or Malaga, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Santos - Cadiz, Spain

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Re: The son of Sir George Rooke - George Rooke (1702-1739)
« Reply #106 on: Wednesday 09 June 21 20:09 BST (UK) »
My guess is that George b. 1701 also attended Eton or a similar school. Possibly attended another preparatory boarding school from a young age.

Plenty of schools in England by 1700.
Schools in Kent included:
Norton Knatchbull School at Ashford
Sevenoaks School
Cranbrook
Harvey's Grammar School, Folkstone
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Royal Hospital School was for sons of sailors. Doesn't seem young George was destined for a navy career so maybe not there. Perhaps if he'd been a younger son or from a less well-off family he might have been sent there.

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Re: The son of Sir George Rooke - George Rooke (1702-1739)
« Reply #107 on: Wednesday 09 June 21 20:13 BST (UK) »

So we have still have in play auntie Ursula, but she had only one surviving son, who died in 1736. Ursula died in 1707.

Ursula Rooke will 1714. Was that her?
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