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Re: The son of Sir George Rooke - George Rooke (1702-1739)
« Reply #90 on: Tuesday 08 June 21 04:21 BST (UK) »
Frances HARDRES was baptised 25 Mar 1683 at St Paul, Canterbury, dau of Thomas and Ursula.

She was buried 24 Aug 1688.

William HARDRES was bap 5 Aug 1686 at St Paul, Canterbury, son of Thomas and Ursula.
A few more details on findagrave
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/192253297/william-hardres
and this wikipedia article
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Hardres

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The son of Sir George Rooke - George Rooke (1702-1739)
« Reply #91 on: Tuesday 08 June 21 07:55 BST (UK) »

May i ask how do you know Ursula Rooke married Sir Thomas Hardres?
Might you have a date?

From a monument in Upper Hardres St Peter and St Paul Church

"Here lies interred the body of Sir Thomas Hardres, Bart., who departed this life on the 23 day of February, in the year of our Lord 1688, in the 28th year of his age. He married Ursula, the second daughter of Sir William Rooke, Knight. (by whom he had issue 2 children, namely Frances who died in her infancy, and William now living.) She died on 8th January in the year 1707, in the 52d year of her age, and also lies buryed under this stone."

"The monuments and painted glass of upwards of one hundred churches, chiefly in the eastern part of Kent, most of which were examined by the editor in person, and the rest communicated by the resident clergy. With an appendix, containing three churches in other counties. To which are added, a small collection of detached epitaphs, with a few notes on the whole. By Philip Parsons, A. M. Minister of wye, in Kent"

Publication Date: 1794
Absolutely fantastic information, thank you.
So we can now see Ursula passed away in 1707.
Young George would have been 5 years old, so that counts her out in her care for him after 1707.
Ireland:-
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Ferrissey - Waterford
Mooney - Waterford
Murphy - Waterford
Phelan - Waterford
Power - Waterford
Veale - Waterford

England:-
Brandon - Liverpool
Beale (Hamblin/Hamblen) - London?
Reed - Bedfordshire
Turner - Luton
Taylor - Bedfordshire

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Beneroso - Cadiz or Malaga, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Santos - Cadiz, Spain

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The son of Sir George Rooke - George Rooke (1702-1739)
« Reply #92 on: Tuesday 08 June 21 08:00 BST (UK) »
Frances HARDRES was baptised 25 Mar 1683 at St Paul, Canterbury, dau of Thomas and Ursula.

She was buried 24 Aug 1688.

William HARDRES was bap 5 Aug 1686 at St Paul, Canterbury, son of Thomas and Ursula.
A few more details on findagrave
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/192253297/william-hardres
and this wikipedia article
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Hardres
Thank you for this interesting information.

I wonder under whose care George was until he went to Pembroke College aged 16?
Once he obtained his BA, I wonder what he did?
By then he was 18 years old.
We know he married aged 21.
Ireland:-
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford
Ferrissey - Waterford
Mooney - Waterford
Murphy - Waterford
Phelan - Waterford
Power - Waterford
Veale - Waterford

England:-
Brandon - Liverpool
Beale (Hamblin/Hamblen) - London?
Reed - Bedfordshire
Turner - Luton
Taylor - Bedfordshire

Spain & Italy:-
Beneroso - Cadiz or Malaga, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Santos - Cadiz, Spain

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Re: The son of Sir George Rooke - George Rooke (1702-1739)
« Reply #93 on: Tuesday 08 June 21 16:15 BST (UK) »

Ideas about child-rearing were different 300 years ago.

Background reading:

"The Georgian guide to perfect parenting"
https://www.historyextra.com/period/georgian/the-georgian-guide-to-perfect-parenting/
(Information about different stages of childhood.)

Most of young George's childhood was spent in Stuart England. Possible terms to research:
Childhood in Stuart England
Childhood in Georgian England
Childhood in Early Modern England
Children and youth in history
Marriage children and home life in 1700s
Family life in early 18th century
Family and social life in 18th century

"The Invention of Childhood" was a 6 part Radio 4 series by Michael Morpurgo.
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Re: The son of Sir George Rooke - George Rooke (1702-1739)
« Reply #94 on: Wednesday 09 June 21 11:08 BST (UK) »

I wonder under whose care George was until he went to Pembroke College aged 16?
Once he obtained his BA, I wonder what he did?
By then he was 18 years old.
We know he married aged 21.

We also know he had a good 21st birthday party - from a previous thread:

"London, July 6.
   On Sunday last, George Rooke, Esq; eldest son to
the late Sir George Rooke, Knt. and Admiral, came
of Age. On which Occasion a very great Enter-
tainment was made at the Feathers Tavern in Cheap-
side."
July 6, 1723, The Daily Post

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Re: The son of Sir George Rooke - George Rooke (1702-1739)
« Reply #95 on: Wednesday 09 June 21 11:17 BST (UK) »
Might have mentioned this before, but knowing now who George snr's siblings were, I wonder whose death this was reported in 1725 - not Thomas or Finch?

"On Saturday last, Major-General Rooke, Brother to the
late Admiral Sir George Rooke, was bury'd at Isleworth in
Middlesex."
   Jan. 19, 1725, The Post Boy

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Ireland:-
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford
Ferrissey - Waterford
Mooney - Waterford
Murphy - Waterford
Phelan - Waterford
Power - Waterford
Veale - Waterford

England:-
Brandon - Liverpool
Beale (Hamblin/Hamblen) - London?
Reed - Bedfordshire
Turner - Luton
Taylor - Bedfordshire

Spain & Italy:-
Beneroso - Cadiz or Malaga, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Santos - Cadiz, Spain

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Re: The son of Sir George Rooke - George Rooke (1702-1739)
« Reply #97 on: Wednesday 09 June 21 15:50 BST (UK) »
Might have mentioned this before, but knowing now who George snr's siblings were, I wonder whose death this was reported in 1725 - not Thomas or Finch?

"On Saturday last, Major-General Rooke, Brother to the
late Admiral Sir George Rooke, was bury'd at Isleworth in
Middlesex."
   Jan. 19, 1725, The Post Boy

Hayman or Heyman Rooke, son of Lawrence Rooke according to https://www.ashefamily.info
See my reply #72 about this website. I suspect misprints with some dates of births & deaths.
I looked at Rooke on the Surnames list on the Ashe site. Couldn't spot a death in 1725. Checked military men alive in 17th & 18th centuries + other men alive then.
Major-General Hayman Rooke sometime of Canterbury, afterwards of Isleworth, County Middlesex. Baptised at Horton 10th Feb. 1653. Captain 1677; Colonel 1703; Brigadier 1706/7; Major-General 1709/10. Died Jan. 1724/5. Buried Isleworth. Will 1722, proved 1724 by Disney Rooke, relict (widow).
Lawrence Rooke, (b. 1622) father of Hayman, had several sons, according to Ashe family website. Another was George, also born 1653, also a soldier. Lieutenant in Duke & Duchess of York Infantry 1684; (another George Rooke was lieutenant in same regiment at same time); Captain 1709. George was Lawrence's heir (Ashe family website).
Lawrence's parents were George Rooke (b. 1580) & Mary Burrell.
If the above is correct, the newspaper was wrong about the relationship of the Admiral and the Major-General.
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Re: The son of Sir George Rooke - George Rooke (1702-1739)
« Reply #98 on: Wednesday 09 June 21 16:31 BST (UK) »
Major-General Hayman Rooke was 1st cousin to Admiral Sir George Rooke according to catalogue description of a document collection "Rooke family of St. Briavels" dated 1671-1919 in Gloucestershire Archives.
https://www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/archives/
Located via National Archives Discovery catalogue https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk or by a search for Major-General Hayman Rooke 1653-1724.
The collection is of deeds and estate records of Bigsweir estate, St. Briavels, Newlands and Monmouthshire + miscellaneous records + correspondence of the Rooke family.
Creator: Rooke family of Mersham, Kent and of Bigsweir, Gloucestershire.
The Rooke family, originally from Mersham, Kent, acquired the Bigsweir estate by the 2nd marriage of Major James Rooke, son of Major-General Hayman Rooke, to Jane Catchmay, the heiress, in 1735.
Collection includes letters and order books + original letters received by Admiral Sir George Rooke "and Order Book of the Coldstream Guards probably belonging to Major-General Hayman Rooke, first cousin of the Admiral." "The Admiral's descendants do not figure in this collection and may have died out, though there are letters from a Lewis Rooke of Devon ..... giving his reasons for believing himself descended from the Admiral ....." 
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