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« Reply #9 on: Monday 29 August 05 22:11 BST (UK) »
Hi Mary

Yes - HEAPS of stuff comes up on google and having gone through most of the 7,100 pages there is nothing that I have seen about this particular band, its all on clairvoyancy - at least most of it is. ::)

Thanks a lot for your help and thanks to everyone

Bill
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« Reply #10 on: Monday 29 August 05 23:57 BST (UK) »
The name Leon Petulengro comes to mind but for quite what reason I don't know, I think maybe Blackpool clairvoyant.

Mary!

How could you forget that's the fellah you used to have a crush on - on the charrah -  going to see the lights -  when you were 15!!!!!!

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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 30 August 05 08:18 BST (UK) »
I always wondered why he had an earring when they weren't in fashion and his spotted hankie on his head and always sang Cher songs!

Yep, he vanished just as expected  ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 31 August 05 17:17 BST (UK) »



Well Bill!

I've been looking for your dancers and I can't find anything!
but after looking through endless websites -
I imagine you're not too keen to find her -
look at all those "belly dancers"............ :P
makes research fun -
doesn't it? ::) ::) ::)

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« Reply #13 on: Monday 05 September 05 13:40 BST (UK) »
The Times, Tuesday, Sep 07, 1937; pg. 9; Issue 47783; col D  - mentions Ethel Jowsey, 23, a member of 'Petulengro's Gypsy Band', who was in court for stealing a bracelet from a Brighton boarding house.

From the 1957 will of 'Gypsy Petulengro', his real name was 'Mr Walter Leon Lloyd' (he died in 1957) - maybe the 'Leon Petulengro' that MaryA mentions?  Apparently, his father, Walter Lloyd, went by Gipsy/Gypsy or Xavier Petulengro (he wrote some books).  Leon Petulengro claimed his grandfather was Jasper Petulengro (ordinarly George Smith, Petulengro meaning 'Smith')
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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 07 September 05 22:25 BST (UK) »
Thanks jorose,

That info is worth persuing - although the gypsy band I refer to was purley women and I believe implied that in its title although I cant remember it properly. My Aunt would have been over 40 in 1937 so whether or not this is the same band I dont know.

Many thanks

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« Reply #15 on: Sunday 18 September 05 13:09 BST (UK) »
I received this email this morning. Perhaps Paul Petulengro may have the answer to the original query:


Hello Hackstaple,
just seen your comments on RootsChat regarding Petulengro. Thought you
would like to know the person you mention broadcasting on the BBC was my
Grandfather Xavier Petulengro, I have some info regarding him on my web
site www.petulengro.com  I don't often coma across people who can remember
him these days. By the way I now live in Granada, Spain though originally
from Leeds-
Regards Paul Petulengro
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« Reply #16 on: Sunday 18 September 05 13:38 BST (UK) »
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« Reply #17 on: Saturday 24 September 05 12:09 BST (UK) »
Update on Petulengros band

I have found the band I was looking for thanks to Paul Petulengro. In fact the band my aunt was in is unlikely to have been real gypsys as the leader of this Petulengro Gypsy Girls Band as it seems to have been called as otherwise known as Pietro Lengro - you can see how he turned it into Petulengro! lol I no have an archive film with the band playing and there appears to have been in excess of 20 members - all women except of course the leader 'Petulengro' The introduction says 'The Famous Petulengro Gypsy Girls Band' and I believe this is in line with what I remember being told.

So, having now got this info - I am not that much closer to finding my aunts married name (although I do of course know her birth name) and hence where I might find her grave. But given that there were so many members one wonders if there arent lots of people out there who must have connections to the band also.

I am hoping that eventually someone else who had a relation in this band might get in touch one day.

In the meantime - I want to thank everyone who has been so kind in trying to provide me with information.

Best wishes to all

Bill
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