Hi Carole
Thanks for the reply. I have Lizzie in 1911 living with an aunt and uncle at Park road Tanyfron
which ties in with family memory. But with all the Elizabeths flitting about, I was trying to pin down the actual parents. It makes sense that she was named after her mum. We know she had an older brother but we dont know his name either but by putting 2 and 2 together with my fingers crossed, I think I may have found the father and son living in Gwynfryn with the grandmother. Joseph Thos. Lloyd and Alun Howell Ll. (widower). You mentioned in your reply mmn howell which I dont understand but the howell name fits.
Elaine