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Advice on records pertaining to Episcopal Church clergy
« on: Thursday 22 April 21 12:14 BST (UK) »
I have stumbled upon what is possibly the only man of God in my family of heathens and I'm looking for advice!

Does any one have suggestions / advice on what records are available regarding Episcopal Church clergy and where I might find them?  Any and all records of interest to flesh out his story, I would hope that a minister would be reasonably well documented.

The man in question is Reverend Nathaniel Grieve (bap. 5 Jan 1870 - d. 18 Feb 1863).  When he died he was the Minister of the Episcopal Church in Ellon, and his gravestone there says he died in the 60th year of his ministry.

EDIT: I notice that Aberdeen Uni Special Collections have the Episcopal diocese records.  Does anyone know what these entail?
McGillivray (Aberdeenshire), Williamson (Ross and Cromarty)

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Re: Advice on records pertaining to Episcopal Church clergy
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 22 April 21 13:14 BST (UK) »
There's a book Scottish Episcopal Clergy, 1689-2000 by David Bertie which should contain a brief biography.

https://books.google.com.au/books?id=Ceey5RQHgHoC&hl=en
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Re: Advice on records pertaining to Episcopal Church clergy
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 22 April 21 13:48 BST (UK) »
There's a book Scottish Episcopal Clergy, 1689-2000 by David Bertie which should contain a brief biography.

https://books.google.com.au/books?id=Ceey5RQHgHoC&hl=en

Incredible, thank you!
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Re: Advice on records pertaining to Episcopal Church clergy
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 22 April 21 17:18 BST (UK) »
From "A history of the burgh and parish of Ellon, Aberdeenshire," James Godsman, 1958.

The Rev. Nathaniel Grieve, M.A. He was born in 1782, the son of John Grieve, Oldmill, parish of Turriff. In 1803, he graduated at Marischal College, Aberdeen, and in that year was ordained to the charges of Chapelhall and Tillydesk. For a period he was in charge of the congregation at Old Meldrum. In 1806, Mr Grieve married firstly, Miss Ann Pirie of Orchardtown, parish of Udny, and had issue:
John, a clergyman in the Church of England, who died in 1886. Mary, wife of James Wilson, M.D., Staff Surgeon; she died in 1891. Isobel and Helen, who died in childhood.
In 1815, he married secondly, Miss Sophia Robertson, 1790-1862, and had issue:
Alexander, M.D., Fraserburgh; he died in 1891. Nathaniel, M.A. Samuel, M.A., 1831-1895. Jane, married the Very Rev. Alexander Harper, M.A., at St Mary's, Inverurie, and Dean of Aberdeen. Sophia, died 1840. Elizabeth, died 1885. Margaret, and Jane, who died in childhood.
Mr Grieve carried out the plan which Bishop Skinner had much at heart, viz., the uniting of the two charges at Tillydesk and Chapelhall. A new church, built in 1816, at Chapelhall, on the south bank of the River Ythan at Ellon, was opened on Sunday, 28th July, 1816. The chapel was to have been opened by Bishop Skinner, but he died two weeks before this date, and the sermon which he intended using at the consecration, was read by Mr Grieve.
The first chapel at Craighall was a commodious oblong building with a small apse for a sanctuary, in front of which stood the "three decker pulpit,", reading, and clerk's desk, one above the other. The chapel was considered the best in the diocese. In 1862, improvements were made, but its bulging walls and general instability, marked its early demolition. Mr Grieve is described as "a worthy, good man, a good student, who left a valuable library." During his incumbency, Mr Grieve resided at Kinharrachie Lodge, in default of a Rectory at Craighall. In 1863, Mr Grieve retired to Aberdeen, where he died in 1866*, aged 84. He is buried in the Old Churchyard of Ellon, there being no burial ground at Craighall till the present St Mary's-on-the-Rock was built.

*Gravestone says 1863. Godsman sometimes makes errors, so you should always check the facts.


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Re: Advice on records pertaining to Episcopal Church clergy
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 22 April 21 17:28 BST (UK) »
At Ellon:

Sacred to the memory of the Rev. Nathaniel Grieve M.A. clergyman of the Church of Scotland and incumbent in the Episcopal Church, Ellon. He died in Aberdeen on the 18th February 1863 in the 84th year of his age and the 60th of his ministry. "Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord" "Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God."

and the neighbouring stone:

Here are deposited in hopes of a blessed resurrection the mortal remains of Sophia Grieve who died 17th Decr. 1838 aged 15 years. Also of Jane who died in infancy being both daughters of the Rev. Nathaniel Grieve, Episcopal Clergyman, Ellon and his wife Sophia. Also of the said Sophia Robertson or Grieve wife of the said Nathaniel Grieve who died the 12th Feb. 1862 aged 72 years and of his son Samuel who died the 16th October 1895 aged 64 years.

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Re: Advice on records pertaining to Episcopal Church clergy
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 22 April 21 17:39 BST (UK) »
From "A history of the burgh and parish of Ellon, Aberdeenshire," James Godsman, 1958.

The Rev. Nathaniel Grieve, M.A. He was born in 1782, the son of John Grieve, Oldmill, parish of Turriff. In 1803, he graduated at Marischal College, Aberdeen, and in that year was ordained to the charges of Chapelhall and Tillydesk. For a period he was in charge of the congregation at Old Meldrum. In 1806, Mr Grieve married firstly, Miss Ann Pirie of Orchardtown, parish of Udny, and had issue:
John, a clergyman in the Church of England, who died in 1886. Mary, wife of James Wilson, M.D., Staff Surgeon; she died in 1891. Isobel and Helen, who died in childhood.
In 1815, he married secondly, Miss Sophia Robertson, 1790-1862, and had issue:
Alexander, M.D., Fraserburgh; he died in 1891. Nathaniel, M.A. Samuel, M.A., 1831-1895. Jane, married the Very Rev. Alexander Harper, M.A., at St Mary's, Inverurie, and Dean of Aberdeen. Sophia, died 1840. Elizabeth, died 1885. Margaret, and Jane, who died in childhood.
Mr Grieve carried out the plan which Bishop Skinner had much at heart, viz., the uniting of the two charges at Tillydesk and Chapelhall. A new church, built in 1816, at Chapelhall, on the south bank of the River Ythan at Ellon, was opened on Sunday, 28th July, 1816. The chapel was to have been opened by Bishop Skinner, but he died two weeks before this date, and the sermon which he intended using at the consecration, was read by Mr Grieve.
The first chapel at Craighall was a commodious oblong building with a small apse for a sanctuary, in front of which stood the "three decker pulpit,", reading, and clerk's desk, one above the other. The chapel was considered the best in the diocese. In 1862, improvements were made, but its bulging walls and general instability, marked its early demolition. Mr Grieve is described as "a worthy, good man, a good student, who left a valuable library." During his incumbency, Mr Grieve resided at Kinharrachie Lodge, in default of a Rectory at Craighall. In 1863, Mr Grieve retired to Aberdeen, where he died in 1866*, aged 84. He is buried in the Old Churchyard of Ellon, there being no burial ground at Craighall till the present St Mary's-on-the-Rock was built.

*Gravestone says 1863. Godsman sometimes makes errors, so you should always check the facts.

Thanks for this.  This seems to have formed the biggest base of info for the book that Forforian linked also, and you're spot on - both birth and death years are wrong.  But it's the biographical information I was interested in, which it provides so thanks!
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Re: Advice on records pertaining to Episcopal Church clergy
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 22 April 21 19:22 BST (UK) »
As he graduated from Marischal College the University of Aberdeen will have information about him as well.

https://www.abdn.ac.uk/special-collections/rolls-of-graduates-212.php
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