John George White

[jonwarrn]

....the family group that Annette has identified looks promising for John George

The only anomaly left now really is the difference in father's name on John's marriage certificate.

Just in case the Whites and Lawrences were once neighbours!
1907 Acton directory has
Colville Road
From Bollo lane to Stirling rd.

Lawrence William (Windham villa)
White Edmd. (Orchard cottage)

Edmund appears as Edward White on the electorals around that time, landing at Orchard Cottage in 1907 from 27 Stirling Road.
William Lawrence on them at Windham in 1908, probably only time.
Windham Villa sounds grand, and I suppose it might have been, but it had a platelayer and his family living there on the last census, next door to the Whites.

If so, his parents were Edmund Joseph White and Clara Elizabeth Coombs although I can find no marriage between them.

Could Edmund have already been married to someone else? Not sure!

[jonwarrn]

The only anomaly left now

I did think the "engine fitter" occupation on John's birth certificate was a bit odd!

[MonicaL]

This 1881 entry made me laugh www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q279-B587

We have all the names we need, siblings Charles E and Edmund J born around the right time. Just a co-incidence I am sure! Their father was Charles, a plasterer.

Spent a while again trying to find a marriage for Edmund and Clara. They show in 1911 as having been married around 25 years (10 children, showing from 1887 on the censuses).

Monica

[jonwarrn]

Going on his age later (did he reduce his age to be nearer to Clara?), I did wonder about this one, fits birthday given in 1939.

WHITE, EDMUND JOSEPH ROBERT    
Mother's Maiden Surname: SIMMONS 
GRO Reference: 1851  S Quarter in ST JAMES CLERKENWELL  Volume 03  Page 92

In Islington in 1861, age 9
piece 127 folio 32 page 18
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-L3FW-L9WQ

Father Edmund Richard White? Died Fulham 1893?

I think EJR White married, but not sure if more than once.
Gave up in the end!

[jonwarrn]

I think EJR White married, but not sure if more than once.

June 1870, Holborn 1b 1033
Edmond Joseph R White + Mary Hughes (probably!)

Then, 29 Feb 1880, St John Deptford
Edmund Joseph White, 28, Bachelor, Raly Guard?, father Edmund Richard White, Architect (!)
+
Mary Ann Haylock
 

[F.H.]

Wow, incredible...

Don't know what to say, except a BIG thank you to you all.

This story is starting to come alive.

[MonicaL]

1901 www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X96N-MZ7
1911 www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW4S-6J7

So, we have the above likely census entries for John George's family. Have been trying and failing to find them in 1891 

Some birth dates confirmed from school admission records (Wendell Park School, admission on 18 April 1898. Previously at Victoria School):

May b. 13 June 1889
Edmund b. 26 may 1890
Richard b. 24 July 1891

Monica

[F.H.]

Hi Monica.

Do you know if these schools were Catholic schools???
As my cousin states, her mother Doreen and brothers and sisters went to an Irish Catholic school in Ilford and her mum was adamant that the family came from Ireland.

Just wondering?

Thank you,
Fred

[jonwarrn]

They are in Hammersmith in 1891
piece 41 folio 108 page 3
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:3PGP-VW2

Youngest son Edward is on next page.
Head is Edward White, an engraver on wood