John George White

[jonwarrn]

Father, Edmund Joseph WHITE occupation Engine Fitter.

A bit more on Edmund.
He was still alive in 1939, living with his daughter Clara Elizabeth (now Mrs. Ware, married in Acton, 1920)

According to the free index to the 1939 Register, Edmond J White, born 1851, at 75 Lansbury Drive, in Hayes and Harlington U.D., Middlesex.

Death reg, again Edmond with an o
Sep 1941 Uxbridge 3a 69
White, Edmond Joseph
age 89

[F.H.]

Hi jonw65.

Thank you for this info.

As others mentioned previously, this whole WHITE/LAWRENCE family are sure hard to find.

F H

[F.H.]

Hi all.

I've been in touch with my cousins today looking for any more snippets of information that would help regarding the WHITE/LAWRENCE family.

They are sure that there is some "Irish" connection.

Hope this may help

[MonicaL]

I don't think we have commented on this. Are these John George White's death details here www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVCR-Z2QY Very likely given that Dorothy's death details from earlier were in the same place.

Just noting the date of birth here as that mentioned by Annette much earlier on, 30 May 1893.

Monica

[F.H.]

Hello Monica.

Thank you. Yes, this date is correct for John George White's death at Southend.

I made a mistake with his birth date on the birth certificate. 

It is the 30th May 1893 and not the 13th as I stated, sorry.

Fred.

[Annette7]

We already knew that the father he named when he married did not appear to exist - surely the fact that the man I'd pinpointed earlier was indeed born 30/5/1893 (which John George says he was) would mean they are one and the same?

Annette

[jonwarrn]

Looking at Edmund in the electorals at Orchard Cottage, Colville Road, Acton
But the post has been shelved for a dramatic story
Is in loads of papers, including national ones

13 August 1909
Acton Gazette
A ghastly tragedy took place outside Orchard Cottage, Colville-road, South Acton, shortly after eleven o'clock last Saturday evening. May White, aged 20, daughter of Edmund White, a case-maker at the Army and Navy Stores, Chiswick, was talking to her former lover, John Bee, when be murdered her with a razor.

Some free articles
Cardiff Times, 14 August 1909
London Love Tragedy
Rejected Swain's Jealousy
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3434947/3434950/54/

Rhyl Journal, 14th August 1909
A Broken Engagement
Tragic Sequel
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3630326/3630332/76/

On the 11th August, Evening Express
Acton Love Tragedy
Mysterious Letter at the Inquest
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/4207335/4207338/98/

The Daily News (Perth, WA), 8 Oct 1909
Tragedy of a Double Life.
Discarded Suitor Murders Acton Girl and Commits Suicide.
Living Wife Revealed.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/77351495

[MonicaL]

...May White, aged 20, daughter of Edmund White, a case-maker at the Army and Navy Stores, Chiswick, was talking to her former lover, John Bee, when be murdered her with a razor.

Awful events 

However, from this we have that Edmund at the time is described as a case maker....a few years later, John George described his father as a packing case maker on his marriage registration in 1914....

Monica

[MonicaL]

....the family group that Annette has identified looks promising for John George.

Census entries for:

1901 www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X96N-MZ7
1911 www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW4S-6J7

Just bringing forward again the two census entries we had for the family.

Monica