John George White

[F.H.]

Hi all.

With my head spinning at the amount of info you have kindly given, I've ordered the birth certificate of John George WHITE.
Hopefully, this will clear up a few details.

Thank you.

[jonwarrn]

I think this is them in Acton in the free index to 1911.
Father William is not at home, which wouldn't have helped in the search!
See original for the address!!
Louisa Lawrence 47
May Lawrence 17, born Hackbridge, Surrey
Willie Lawrence 14
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW4S-6KD

Hopefully can be confirmed, well done to Monica for her great spot, which got us there.

I saw this probate entry for a younger William www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPLZ-2W2L and on Find a Grave www.findagrave.com/memorial/200131062/william-henry_charles-lawrence

His death index entry shows him aged c.29

William H C Lawrence, 29, 2nd Qrt Brentford (3a/231)

[jonwarrn]

Could this be them in South Wimbledon in 1901?
Piece 660 folio 24 page 40
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9X8-PLG

D M Lawrance 7
W C Lawrance 4
Both born Wimbledon

Parents
W H Lawrance 34 Bailiff, born Ships Mallet, Cornwall
M L Lawrance 32 Laundress, born Hants

Two other, older children born Hampshire.

[jonwarrn]

May 1945 electoral register, Acton South
14 Roslin Road
Louisa S Lawrence
William H Lawrence
Plus the two Lansdowns

October 1945 register
Louisa S Lawrence still at 14 Roslin Road.
But no William H Lawrence listed there.

Did William die around that time? The best matching death reg may be
LAWRENCE, WILLIAM  HENRY     
Age at Death (in years): 78 
GRO Reference: 1945  J Quarter in WILLESDEN  Volume 03A  Page 336

Burial at Acton Cemetery, 17 April 1945
William Henry Lawrence
Age 78

On ancestry,  England & Scotland, Select Cemetery Registers, 1800-2016. Unfortunately they don't have the image.

[Annette7]

And we thought the White's were a problem??

Louisa Butcher was actually born Fordingbridge 1866 as Sarah Louisa Butcher but thereafter known as Louisa.

She married a Richard Foster in 1883 and in 1891 (minus Richard) is incorrectly transcribed on Ancestry as 'Andrews' (surname of remarried mother Norah) although shown as Foster on original.

Had 4 children then, Elizabeth (actually Fanny Elizabeth), Louisa (actually Jane Louisa). Henry C W (died 1892) and Florence V (died 1891).   So, the F E and J L Laurance shown in 1901 were actually Foster's from mothers first marriage.   Having said that, I cannot find a marriage between a William Henry Laurance/variants and Louisa (or Sarah Louisa) Foster, nee Butcher.  Come to that, cannot find a William Henry born 1867 Cornwall either!

Not an easy couple to follow on both counts!

Annette

[Annette7]

On 1901 census W H Laurance is shown as born Ships Mallet, Cornwall - no such place but eventually discovered this should have been Shepton Mallet, Somerset!

William Henry Lawrence was born 24/3/1867, baptised 24/4/1867 Shepton Mallet, son of William and Ann Eliza.

In 1939 he and Louisa  are in Acton and his birthdate given agrees with the Shepton Mallet baptism.

Annette 

[MonicaL]

Well done for figuring out William's birth place from that 1901 entry, Annette. Was wondering where Ships Mallet was!

Monica

[MonicaL]

Hello All.   

Just received the marriage certificate of John George WHITE and Dorothy May Winifred LAWRENCE.
7th March 1914 at the Register Office Brentford.
John's father is Charles Edward WHITE (packing case maker).
Dorothy's father is William Henry Charles LAWRENCE (builders labourer).
Their address given, is 14 Bolls or Bolts Lane, Acton Green.
Witnesses are Laura LAWRENCE and Henry (looks like) GUDDE

Fred, could witness Laura Lawrence to Dorothy's wedding have been Louisa Lawrence rather than a Laura? Is it clearly written?

Monica

[F.H.]

Hi Monica.

I've just checked the marriage certificate again. It is quite clearly Laura Lawrence...

Would "Louisa" use the name "Laura", quite a possibility surely?

Fred.