John (Benjamin) GORDON Otaki

[Lucy2]

Rotorua Cemeteries   ... link  >

https://www.rotorualakescouncil.nz/our-services/cemetery-services/Onlincemeterysearch/Pages/default.aspx

JACOMB - Annie Elizabeth - d. 1949
JACOMB - Arnold William Ripley - d. 1952 (husband of Annie E.)

Records too for Annie's sons >

GORDON - Albert John (d. 1982)
GORDON - Victor Thomas (d. 1976)

[Lucy2]

https://billiongraves.com/grave/Reuben-Benjamin-Gordon/39840891

Burial place of Reuben Benjamin GORDON - d. 1966 (S/o Thomas and Annie Elizabeth)

[SignalHill]

Thanks Lucy

I am busy trying to cross reference this info with many scraps I have collected but not well organised

Burial place not noted on Death Printout only the Minister or other witness to Burial

Minister was long time C of E minister at Otaki James McWilliam so it is almost certain that burial is at Rangiatea Cemetery adjacent to the historic Anglican, once destroyed Church.   References to Thomas GORDON being buried at the Native Cemetery seem to refer to Rangiatea but I had previously thought that Native referred to the Catholic Cemetery known as Pukekaraka.   

We had assumed that the historic Gordons were all of Catholic persuasion.   A reminder that the times in which I grew up seemed to have a religious rigidity which has not been prevalent for most of NZ history.

Have once ambled around Rangiatea Cemetery in the gathering dusk - the early burials there appear quite random.   I note Otaki Historical Society has a good Journal and Long-standing researches so that must be my next port of call on burial.

The locating of Albert John GORDON farmer at Horohoro in the probate connects with Kearoa notes I have on korero from visiting that Marae

The loose ends are John GORDON's arrival in NZ date and ship (from Cheshire ?) and supposed connection with the Scottish Constabulary.

Signal

[SignalHill]

Hi Lucy
My earlier post on Burial is incorrect

Burial columns crowded and somehow I was not seeing "Otaki" squeezed between Unknown in Parents column and England in "Religion" of minister.

Must need more practice in reading down handwritten columns, or maybe its a sign of a bad week with too much of very different nature squeezed in.

There are at least 3 distinct cemeteries in Otaki which I now categorise as 1.   Rangiatea (original Anglican cemetery    2.   Pukeatua Catholic cemetery and     3.   Public Otaki Cemetery.   Of these only Rangiatea is not searchable on-line

Signal

[Lucy2]

There are at least 3 distinct cemeteries in Otaki which I now categorise as 1.   Rangiatea (original Anglican cemetery    2.   Pukeatua Catholic cemetery and     3.   Public Otaki Cemetery.   Of these only Rangiatea is not searchable on-line

Hi Signal

Haven't been able to find a burial for John GORDON (d. 1897) either. 

A good many Rangiatea Churchyard "records" are searchable at >
https://billiongraves.com/cemetery/Otaki-Public-Cemetery/249958
but these are, (in the main), for plots with headstones.

I would think if "Otaki" is what is written on the death printout (and the Rev. McWilliam was the officiating minister), then that would refer to "Otaki (Public) Cemetery" as distinct from 'Rangiatea  Cemetery".   

But as I recommended earlier, I think the Otaki Historical Society would be your best source of assistance. 

*  Was John GORDON's place of birth recorded on the death printout ??

    ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

Hi again Signal

You may also like to contact National Library of NZ (NatLib) re: records (and a possible lookup on your behalf) for the following >

https://natlib.govt.nz/records/22397886

*  Rangiatea Church (Otaki) :  Register of Baptisms, marriages and burials.

*  Maori Marriages and Baptism Certificates :    [Covering wider Otaki area ]

    ~  Lu

[SignalHill]

1.   Where born
2.   How Long in New Zealand

England
30
Years

which fits with  Chester in Cyclopaedia of NZ
Signal

[Lucy2]

Hi Signal

... it doesn't specifically say "Chester" on the death printout though ??

"In NZ 30 years"   (circa 1867)  ... quite possibly this is just calculated back to the birth year of his oldest child   

Funnily, when I read the piece that was published in the Cyclopaedia, I though it read a bit like a passage taken from an obituary ?      Shame that there's nothing obvious in way of an obit in the newspapers.      Somebody though did have some info on him way back then.    And maybe the historical society does     

     ~  Lu

   

[Lucy2]

"Cashmere" (ship) ... Voyages to New Zealand.

http://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/tei-Bre01Whit-t1-body-d242.html

Have you checked then if he was maybe on a later voyage of the "Cashmere" -  last one seems to be 1863?