Grt Grandma Rose (Smith/Newman/Barnsdale)

[Peter78]

This one is proving tiresome, bless her....

I've photos, death certificates, dates, but can't find her lol (her american line are wanting to know something).

So, Grt Grandma Rose

Born Rose Smith 26.08.1897, Sudbury, Suffolk
Married (1) Cecil Walter Newman 06.1919, Sudbury, Suffolk
Married (2) Jack (John Robert) Barnsdale December 1949, Sudbury, Suffolk
Died 22.02.1973, Sudbury, Suffolk

Rose birthed four children to Cecil Walter - Evelyn, Edward, Peter, Pauline

I know where they lived, who went where regarding the children...

But nothing of Rose herself, and her family line - parents, siblings, dates, places etc...

Can anyone help, please!!!

[rosie99]

What information did Roses marriage give about her father

[Peter78]

All I've got is what I've put in original post I'm afraid, I've nothing else.

Information comes from what my long deceased grandfather had already, combined with the Newman website information, but neither has anything on Rose's side

[rosie99]

You really need to purchase a marriage certificate to check the information you have been given

This one is proving tiresome, bless her....
Born Rose Smith 26.08.1897, Sudbury, Suffolk

SMITH, ROSE    MMN    SAVAGE 
GRO Reference: 1897  Dec Quarter in SUDBURY  Volume 04A  Page 775

[rosie99]

If that birth is correct, possible siblings (Information from GRO website)

SMITH, AGNES       - SAVAGE 
1889  Dec Quarter in SUDBURY  Volume 04A  Page 639

SMITH, JOSEPH  THOMAS     - SAVAGE 
1891  Sept Quarter in SUDBURY  Volume 04A  Page 691
 
SMITH, RICHARD  PAUL     - SAVAGE 
1893  Dec Quarter in SUDBURY  Volume 04A  Page 690
 
SMITH, JAMES  WALTER      - SAVAGE 
1895  Dec Quarter in SUDBURY  Volume 04A  Page 717

[ColC]

I note the birth registration for Rose, do you have the certificate?

SMITH, ROSE       SAVAGE 
GRO Reference: 1897  D Quarter in SUDBURY  Volume 04A  Page 775

Only two marriages in the County below.


Marriages Dec 1888   
SMITH    Frederick Arthur        Blything    4a   1722

SAVAGE    Emma Jane


 Marriages Sep 1892       
Smith    Edgar        Blything    4a   1453   

SAVAGE    Alice Louisa W


Colin

PS Sorry Rosie, I saw the red alert, your post did not show, I think we posted at the same moment.

[ColC]

Possible parents?

Marriages Dec 1888   
SMITH    Frederick Arthur        Blything    4a   1722

SAVAGE    Emma Jane


SMITH, EMMA    died   61 
GRO Reference: 1900  M Quarter in SUDBURY  Volume 04A  Page 569


Colin

[rosie99]

PS Sorry Rosie, I saw the red alert, your post did not show, I think we posted at the same moment.

We were 20 minutes apart  .   No need to apologise we have given different information.

[ColC]

This 1901 census has too many coincidences, no Rose but worth a look?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSV3-K23

Colin