James & Catherine Mooney

[Tickettyboo]

I am looking for help to track down the deaths of my great grandparents. James (Joseph) Mooney was born 19th August 1859. His wife Catherine (Clara) was born 1867 in Dublin. In the 1901 & 1911 census they are living in Liverpool with their 4 sons. After that the trail goes cold. They were Catholic. I have a load of incorrect certificates, so any help would be appreciated.

These certs you have, which entries in the deaths register have you been able to discount from them?
or are these certs not all for James and Catherine but for your tree in general?
Its a real disappointment when you have bought a cert, waited eagerly for it to arrive and then it turns out to be the wrong one.
 I'm not sure which is worse, the feeling you have wasted money or the frustration that you 'still' haven't found them.


Boo

[heywood]

That’s great. I don't know how I missed him   

I tried putting Noel Street in the keyword box, leaving everything else blank  and limiting the search to a year at a time from 1926.

Bit of a faff, but sometimes it pays off :-)

Boo

That’s how I found them initially  Perhaps  when I went back I just searched for Kate - must have done to get those later entries for Kate which are not her.

[newsue92]

This is amazing, the 1926 one certainly sounds right, the 1928 I know is wrong.

[Tickettyboo]

I've just done a wide search on FreeBMD (which lets me download the results and bung them into a spreadsheet)

I used the following criteria
Surname Mooney
First name James
Death age/D.O.B.  @1854-1864
date range from 1927  to  left that blank
and did not specify a county or a district but searched the whole of England & Wales.

I got 15 results, for men of this name whose age at death indicates they were born 1859 +/- 5 years
the years of death range from 1928 to 1951 and they are from a variety of counties.

starting with the nearest to Liverpool area there were 3

1928 Q4 Prescot 8b 804 age 67 (born c1861)
1933 Q2 West Derby 8b 421 age 68 (born c 1865)
1940 Q1 Liverpool N 8b 606  age 76 (born c1864)

Are you able to discount any of those?

Boo

[Tickettyboo]

I just wondered, his children had all either died or married, his wife died, he disappeared from the electoral registers c 1928/29

so I checked on Irish Genealogy and have just seen a death register entry for a James Mooney who died in 1938, Dublin South

06 Jan 1938 , 75 Lower Leeson Street,
James Mooney, male, age 75, a widower occupation PLASTERER (ooh!) , cause of death chronic bronchitis & myocarditis, cardiac failure. His death was registered on 19th Jan 1938  by H. Mooney, sister, of 75 Lower Leeson Street.

and as its on Irish Genealogy. http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ that image is free to download

What do you think?

Boo

[newsue92]

That really does look like it must be him,  the plasterer thing is too much of a coincidence, and my father and uncle remember going to stay with an aunt in Dublin. Thank you all for your help. I think we've cracked it!

[Tickettyboo]

Well it does look quite possible but not writ in stone, if it were me I'd want something else to tie it back to the family that were in Liverpool. Perhaps a query on the Dublin forum could bring some suggestions regarding where he may be buried (in case that record gives more clues to confirm/deny it).
My knowledge of searching in Ireland is fairly limited and people there would have a lot more idea about what resources may be available.

If you do post there, give them a link to this thread  too so they have some background.

Boo

[newsue92]

I will do more digging, but it is a direction to explore. I only have his sisters as Kate & Ellen, so will see what else I find.