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Re: Trying to find Joseph Colonel Stodare - magician
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 20 March 21 19:46 GMT (UK) »
Elizabeth in 1911 states 2 children both dead -
Then this is Joseph in 1861 and Josephine in 1910.
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Kirk London/Brum/Coventry/London 19c
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Re: Trying to find Joseph Colonel Stodare - magician
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 20 March 21 20:01 GMT (UK) »
Big thanks everybody for your assistance.
Bob
Researching East London & Essex Early Photographers and Silent Film Makers and Studios in Waltham Forest.

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Re: Trying to find Joseph Colonel Stodare - magician
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 20 March 21 20:22 GMT (UK) »
Not sure if you have seen this before? From a Spanish site www.lacapitalmdp.com/contenidos/fotosfamilia/fotos/9630

THE SPHINX: On 16-10 1865, a magician promoted as being of French origin and known as Colonel Stodare (1831-1866), presented for the first time a wonderful and undetectable effect: the resurrected sphinx, the head that spoke. The sphinx has been a symbol of secrecy and mystery, so it could not have been chosen a better place than the Egyptian Hall, in Piccadilly, London, to present the effect called that way: The Sphinx. it is somewhat controversial.

His real name could have been Joseph Colonel Stodare or Stoddart, although some historians name him as John or Jack, and his surname Inglis or English. It has been claimed that Colonel was the natural son of John Henry Anderson "The Wizard of the North".

Investigations carried out in the last years affirm that Joseph Colonel Stodare would be his real name; and that "Colonel" (colonel, in Spanish), would not respond to an army rank but to the proper name, since it is the one that appears on his death certificate. Some comment that the title of colonel was used for artistic purposes.
Stodare almost went unnoticed, until he presented two illusions that led to fame. One of them was the Indian or Hindu Basket (Indian Basket Feat), and the other, The Sphinx (The Sphinx).
The Sphinx was the sensation of London; but Colonel's fame and good fortune did not last long, because shortly after the event, he died of tuberculosis at 35 years of age.

With his death, the introductions ceased for some time, until Alfred Inglis, Colonel's younger brother, took up the presentation; and with his new stage name - Alfred Stodare - I continue the success.
But Stodare was only a presenter. Actually, the creator or inventor of The Sphinx was Thomas William Tobin (1844-1883), a scientist who worked as a chemist at the London Polytechnic Institute - then under the direction of John Henry Pepper -, where he also worked as a lecturer and secretary. Almost a teenager, he had received some training in the field of architecture.

Tobin offered the illusion to Pepper and then Anderson, who declined; So he brought it to Stodare, who liked the idea and put it into practice right away. At just 20 years old, The Sphinx was Tobin's second major illusion. The first had been the Cabinet of Proteus and the third The Oracle of Delphi. Three effects with the same scientific principle. Tobin became, in this way, the great promoter of magic based on optical effects......

....THE SPHINX IN ROSARY: On January 17, 1866, the local newspaper El Ferrocarril gave an account of the exploits of a magician in England: “An English colonel is in London giving shows much more surprising than all the known mediums have offered up to now. ”.

Only three months had passed since its presentation at the Egyptian in London. The news did not spread then with the speed of today; but the important thing in this case is the highlight of a magical story in an Argentine newspaper. We can assume that The Railroad took the article from the London Times, which published a lengthy article about the first presentation. How was the effect described? The magician placed a chest on a table without any cloth or tablecloth and, when opening that box, the head of an Egyptian sphinx could be seen. Moving away to avoid suspicion that he was using ventriloquism, he asked the head to open its eyes, to smile, and to answer questions, actions that the sphinx obeyed by moving its eyes from one side to the other. It was clear that the movement of his lips was as natural as anyone's. It was certainly not a mechanical figure....
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Re: Trying to find Joseph Colonel Stodare - magician
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 20 March 21 20:26 GMT (UK) »
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3856044/3856047/24/

Death of Colonel Stodare 1866.

There are more articles,  just search for the surname.
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« Reply #22 on: Saturday 20 March 21 21:44 GMT (UK) »
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With his death, the introductions ceased for some time, until Alfred Inglis, Colonel's younger brother, took up the presentation; and with his new stage name - Alfred Stodare - I continue the success.

Odd/interesting that Alfred and Colonel could be listed on official documents and census under alias's... like Colonel's death cert for instance.

Stewart. Scott. Bruce. McPherson. McMurray. McKibbin . McKay. McCann. Mckrinkine. McClewnan. McCallum. Joss. Ross. Morrison. Chapman. Middlemiss. Robinson. Conlon. Duffy. Dalgarno. Crookshank. Gammack. Ramsay. Mutch. Crawford. Orr. Galbraith. Kerr. Fergusson. Campbell.

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« Reply #23 on: Saturday 20 March 21 22:05 GMT (UK) »
Marriage
2nd December 1829
Liverpool St Philip
Joseph Stoddart bachelor of Great Salkeld, Cumberland
Priscilla Woods spinster of this parish
witnesses W Winshull & John Blacklock

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« Reply #24 on: Saturday 20 March 21 22:26 GMT (UK) »
The "Colonel"

Stewart. Scott. Bruce. McPherson. McMurray. McKibbin . McKay. McCann. Mckrinkine. McClewnan. McCallum. Joss. Ross. Morrison. Chapman. Middlemiss. Robinson. Conlon. Duffy. Dalgarno. Crookshank. Gammack. Ramsay. Mutch. Crawford. Orr. Galbraith. Kerr. Fergusson. Campbell.

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« Reply #25 on: Saturday 20 March 21 22:30 GMT (UK) »
Tonight only ...  Madame Stodare

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Heading or Venue   Egyptian Hall
Place   London, Piccadilly
Title   Theatre of Mystery, Egyptian Hall, Piccadilly. To-night, and every evening at eight ... Madame Stodare (widow of the late Colonel Stodare) with the assistance of Mr. Firbank Burman, will give Colonel Stodare's entertainment of magic as performed by command before Her Most Gracious Majesty the Queen and the Royal family at Windsor Castle, November 21st, 1865, … The renowned Sphinx, … the marvel of Mecca, … Indian basket trick, …
Stewart. Scott. Bruce. McPherson. McMurray. McKibbin . McKay. McCann. Mckrinkine. McClewnan. McCallum. Joss. Ross. Morrison. Chapman. Middlemiss. Robinson. Conlon. Duffy. Dalgarno. Crookshank. Gammack. Ramsay. Mutch. Crawford. Orr. Galbraith. Kerr. Fergusson. Campbell.

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Re: Trying to find Joseph Colonel Stodare - magician
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 20 March 21 22:42 GMT (UK) »
Here is the death cert of that child of the same name as the Colonel that died at 4 months of age in 1861....  Joseph Colonel Stodare Jr

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So... Madame Stodare is Elizabeth Lord?
Is that a consensus.

I searched quite a bit and I don't see her name revealed anywhere but here...

There are about 30 Elizabeth Lord's on GRO who died in the years around 1851 (1940 death - 89 years old). Census said 1843 birth -estimated but death notice says died at 89 in 1940.

Somehow we need to find out where in England she was born, a middle name ....or some other clue. Uncharted territory here. Hats off to anyone who can find reference to Elizabeth Lord being "Madame Stodare" other then this thread.
Stewart. Scott. Bruce. McPherson. McMurray. McKibbin . McKay. McCann. Mckrinkine. McClewnan. McCallum. Joss. Ross. Morrison. Chapman. Middlemiss. Robinson. Conlon. Duffy. Dalgarno. Crookshank. Gammack. Ramsay. Mutch. Crawford. Orr. Galbraith. Kerr. Fergusson. Campbell.