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Re: Hitting A Brick Wall With Logan family
« Reply #18 on: Monday 15 March 21 19:44 GMT (UK) »
Marriage of David Donald and Rachel Gellan as found by searching SP site for Rachel Gellan under old marriages. (there are only 2).

RACHEL GELLAN
   
DAVID DONALD/
   
16/11/1800
168/B
80 258
Old Machar

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Marriage of David Donald's parents from SP:
   
ANDREW DONALD
   
MARY SUTHERLAND/
   
16/11/1772
168/A
130 564
Aberdeen
Stewart. Scott. Bruce. McPherson. McMurray. McKibbin . McKay. McCann. Mckrinkine. McClewnan. McCallum. Joss. Ross. Morrison. Chapman. Middlemiss. Robinson. Conlon. Duffy. Dalgarno. Crookshank. Gammack. Ramsay. Mutch. Crawford. Orr. Galbraith. Kerr. Fergusson. Campbell.

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Re: Hitting A Brick Wall With Logan family
« Reply #19 on: Monday 15 March 21 20:59 GMT (UK) »
In 1861 David Donald was an agricultural labourer... living with Rachel Gellan at 8 Ann Street , Old Machar.

https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a140598f4040b9d6eea58df/rachel-donald-1841-aberdeenshire-old-machar-1776-?locale=en

By 1871 it appears that David Donald has passed away and widow Rachel Gellan lives at 3 Grant st, Woodside, Old Machar.

https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/59027040e9379091b1f1943d/rachel-donald-1871-aberdeenshire-old-machar-1801-?locale=en

I don't see Rachel Gellan in the 1881 census and assume she passed between 1871 and 1881.

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Rachel Gellan's parents John and Margaret Duguid's marriage found on SP by searching their names in old marriage field:

MARGARET DUGUID
   
JOHN GELLAN/
   
04/11/1762
168/B
70 228
Old Machar

There are 4 possible Margaret Duguid's born 20-30 years before their marriage. They all live close by so it will take some time to dig further on the Duguid branch.
Stewart. Scott. Bruce. McPherson. McMurray. McKibbin . McKay. McCann. Mckrinkine. McClewnan. McCallum. Joss. Ross. Morrison. Chapman. Middlemiss. Robinson. Conlon. Duffy. Dalgarno. Crookshank. Gammack. Ramsay. Mutch. Crawford. Orr. Galbraith. Kerr. Fergusson. Campbell.

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Re: Hitting A Brick Wall With Logan family
« Reply #20 on: Monday 15 March 21 21:22 GMT (UK) »
Were you also interested in tracing Charles Logan's wife's tree? 
Stewart. Scott. Bruce. McPherson. McMurray. McKibbin . McKay. McCann. Mckrinkine. McClewnan. McCallum. Joss. Ross. Morrison. Chapman. Middlemiss. Robinson. Conlon. Duffy. Dalgarno. Crookshank. Gammack. Ramsay. Mutch. Crawford. Orr. Galbraith. Kerr. Fergusson. Campbell.

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Re: Hitting A Brick Wall With Logan family
« Reply #21 on: Monday 15 March 21 21:43 GMT (UK) »
Here's a rough start to get you going...

I added a marriage of Alexander Rae's father John Rae and Janet Gray
   
JOHN RAE
   
JANET GRAY/
05/12/1802
227/
20 184
New Machar
Stewart. Scott. Bruce. McPherson. McMurray. McKibbin . McKay. McCann. Mckrinkine. McClewnan. McCallum. Joss. Ross. Morrison. Chapman. Middlemiss. Robinson. Conlon. Duffy. Dalgarno. Crookshank. Gammack. Ramsay. Mutch. Crawford. Orr. Galbraith. Kerr. Fergusson. Campbell.


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Re: Hitting A Brick Wall With Logan family
« Reply #22 on: Monday 15 March 21 22:30 GMT (UK) »
I'm really grateful for you all taking the time to do this. I've been sat populating my tree tonight with some of this information and it's amazing how much time you spend as you end up looking into where they lived, what church they got married in etc just to get a feel for where they lived and what it was like.

I think the hardest thing as a beginner using Ancestry is you're excited trying to get your tree built up but to be objective and having to ignore the 'hints' sometimes and not following other peoples trees. I'm certain some people have done it wrong on certain lines where I think dates are incorrect and can't match up. For example I've seen people put George Logan's father down as William Logan and that George was born in 1875 which can't be possible.

I hadn't even came across sites like FreeCEN until you replied so that has came in useful too. The most recent entries that you have all supplied about the Donald's etc is not information I had before. I only got to a skeleton amount of info about the previous generations.

Again thank you all so much

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Re: Hitting A Brick Wall With Logan family
« Reply #23 on: Monday 15 March 21 23:22 GMT (UK) »
Elizabeth Rose's parents are as follow:

Father: George Rose -Travelling Showman (wow)
Mother: Mary Ann (unknown yet) Rose -millworker

Here is the wedding document that has the clues you need:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ldTnMMar13zbC1UtXcSk4TJHlMGjSPnS/view?usp=sharing

If you go to SP site and type in George Rose and then look at the free LDS 1881 census entries you see that George Rose was born in England while his wife Mary Ann was born in Scotland. I typed in travelling showman as occupation and it popped right up.The girl listed as Elizabeth Rose could either be your grandmother and an error was made or it really is a grandaughter of same name.

Here is a screenshot of the census that lists where there are from etc...
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VJJyPCmbbAAvWkqzufwIqqROrybK-ZCV/view?usp=sharing

Now you know George Rose was born Manchester England and Mary Ann at Montrose Scotland...that will come in handy. Finding their marriage should not be to hard...
Stewart. Scott. Bruce. McPherson. McMurray. McKibbin . McKay. McCann. Mckrinkine. McClewnan. McCallum. Joss. Ross. Morrison. Chapman. Middlemiss. Robinson. Conlon. Duffy. Dalgarno. Crookshank. Gammack. Ramsay. Mutch. Crawford. Orr. Galbraith. Kerr. Fergusson. Campbell.

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Re: Hitting A Brick Wall With Logan family
« Reply #24 on: Monday 15 March 21 23:43 GMT (UK) »
Regarding Andrew Logan's occupation  ???

When you have something like that that you cannot decipher ... you can always head over to Rootschat's hand-writing experts! They are an amazing and talented group of people over there!

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/handwriting-deciphering-recognition/
Stewart. Scott. Bruce. McPherson. McMurray. McKibbin . McKay. McCann. Mckrinkine. McClewnan. McCallum. Joss. Ross. Morrison. Chapman. Middlemiss. Robinson. Conlon. Duffy. Dalgarno. Crookshank. Gammack. Ramsay. Mutch. Crawford. Orr. Galbraith. Kerr. Fergusson. Campbell.

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Re: Hitting A Brick Wall With Logan family
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 16 March 21 00:42 GMT (UK) »
The surname of Mary Ann looked like Milner but I couldn't find anything to match?

The closest I could come up with was with surname Clark but the other names seem very coincidental, not wishing to put anyone off track!

Birth...https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYGR-F2N

Marriage...ROSE GEORGE CLARK / MARY ANN 1860 - 312/ 98 Montrose

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Re: Hitting A Brick Wall With Logan family
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 16 March 21 01:00 GMT (UK) »
From Freebmd site

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Marriages Jun 1843   (>99%)
ROSE    George        Chorlton    20   120

22 May 1843 Eccles, Lancashire, England

This I believe is the correct wedding of George Rose
Stewart. Scott. Bruce. McPherson. McMurray. McKibbin . McKay. McCann. Mckrinkine. McClewnan. McCallum. Joss. Ross. Morrison. Chapman. Middlemiss. Robinson. Conlon. Duffy. Dalgarno. Crookshank. Gammack. Ramsay. Mutch. Crawford. Orr. Galbraith. Kerr. Fergusson. Campbell.