Author Topic: Newbie, looking for Thomas and Harriet Watson of Ripley Derbyshire.  (Read 3240 times)

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Re: Newbie, looking for Thomas and Harriet Watson of Ripley Derbyshire.
« Reply #36 on: Sunday 14 March 21 16:27 GMT (UK) »
I have found a Thomas Carter Watson born in Liverpool 1885. on his wifes probate when she died it said his name was Thomas Watson Carter but that was the only place I have seen it, could this be him? would it say Liverpool if he was born in Bamber Bridge? I know names get dropped etc                         
Thank you for any help  :)
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Re: Newbie, looking for Thomas and Harriet Watson of Ripley Derbyshire.
« Reply #37 on: Sunday 14 March 21 16:40 GMT (UK) »
I wouldn't buy a cert on that basis, yes you'll get a certificate for a Thomas Watson, no it may not be 'your' Thomas.
There are 24 births in FreeBMD for Thomas Watson born 1885-1887 in Lancashire.
So far the only clue is that he said in 1911 that he was born in Bamber Bridge. Hopefully that is correct and not just the first place he remembered living.

Until we know what he said his Dad's name and occupation was (from the marriage cert), we have no other checking point to use to attempt to find him.

BTW you didn't say if you have access to a site that lets you find him in the 1939 National Identity Register? If you can identify him in that it will give you his birth date, let us know as given you had 6 weeks to register a birth that could narrow down the options in the births index further.

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Re: Newbie, looking for Thomas and Harriet Watson of Ripley Derbyshire.
« Reply #38 on: Sunday 14 March 21 16:44 GMT (UK) »
Yes I do have access to them but I find it quite difficult to search, i think I maybe using them wrong :-\  his dob was 9th August 1885
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Painter, Derbyshire

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Callaghan, Nuneaton Lancashire, Ireland.
Howe, Nuneaton

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Re: Newbie, looking for Thomas and Harriet Watson of Ripley Derbyshire.
« Reply #39 on: Sunday 14 March 21 17:00 GMT (UK) »
So was that d.o.b. from the 1939 Register? If so, where was he living and who else was in the house? All of this sort of info helps us to help you. The more we know about a person, the more chance we have of finding more about them.

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Re: Newbie, looking for Thomas and Harriet Watson of Ripley Derbyshire.
« Reply #40 on: Sunday 14 March 21 17:07 GMT (UK) »
No that was from a census, i'm not sure how to check the bmd records this was from the 1939 census he was living in ripley Derbyshire with his new wife Laura Bates at this time
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Callaghan, Nuneaton Lancashire, Ireland.
Howe, Nuneaton

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Re: Newbie, looking for Thomas and Harriet Watson of Ripley Derbyshire.
« Reply #41 on: Sunday 14 March 21 17:08 GMT (UK) »
I have found a Thomas Carter Watson born in Liverpool 1885. on his wifes probate when she died it said his name was Thomas Watson Carter

I've just realised you are referring to Harriet's entry in the Probate Calendar.

If you look through the page its on in the calendar, you'll see that is was common to name the executor/ administrator  followed by their occupation e.g.  railway clerk, labourer, etc

Harriet's entry says she was the wife of Thomas Watson, Administration was granted to the said Thomas Watson carter.

carter is written with a lower case c, not part of his name but is his occupation.

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Re: Newbie, looking for Thomas and Harriet Watson of Ripley Derbyshire.
« Reply #42 on: Sunday 14 March 21 17:11 GMT (UK) »
oh gosh, I never knew that :-\  I have spent all this time thinking it was his middle name! thank you for that info  :)
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Painter, Derbyshire

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Callaghan, Nuneaton Lancashire, Ireland.
Howe, Nuneaton

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Re: Newbie, looking for Thomas and Harriet Watson of Ripley Derbyshire.
« Reply #43 on: Monday 15 March 21 12:26 GMT (UK) »
No that was from a census, i'm not sure how to check the bmd records this was from the 1939 census he was living in ripley Derbyshire with his new wife Laura Bates at this time

Background info on the 1939 National Identity Register (which 'is' the record you have viewed)

https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/1939-register/

That tells you why it was taken and what it was used for.

Specifically in Section number 3  it says:
While the 1939 Register is not a census, it is arranged along similar lines and includes similar, if less detailed, information. It does, however, show exact dates of birth where census returns simply give a person’s age.

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Re: Newbie, looking for Thomas and Harriet Watson of Ripley Derbyshire.
« Reply #44 on: Monday 15 March 21 12:43 GMT (UK) »
THere has been a correction made on his year of birth, could this be possible that he is actually 10 years older and this could be why I can't trace his birth?
sorry for all the questions I am still trying to work out the ins and outs of the process
thank you :)
Paternal side,
Challenger Clutton Somerset England
Painter, Derbyshire

Maternal.
Callaghan, Nuneaton Lancashire, Ireland.
Howe, Nuneaton