Ogg - info on ggg grandfather

[Tink22]

Hi looking for info on how to figure out who my great grandfathers dad might have been, dont know if its possible as birth certificate says illegitimate

Fred paton ogg born 1899 to jeannie ogg, her birth and death record has her as Jane

Is it possible paton could be fathers surname

Jeannie was born 1879 in udny and died 1906 as Jane singer, she married james singer in 1904

Only info family has is that the dad was rumoured to be a gardener, possibly at fyvie Castle but that info could be wrong

No idea where to start looking or even if possible to find info

Thanks

[MonicaL]

Does the name Frederick (for Fred?) feature in Jeannie's family?

Monica

[Tink22]

Does the name Frederick (for Fred?) feature in Jeannie's family?

Monica

Not that I've found so far, 1911 census has him as Frederick, everywhere else its fred

Jeannie's parents were John ogg and Annie Cowie, grandparents William Cowie and ann rae

[Ruskie]

Do you have Fred's marriage certificate in case he gave a father's name?

Yes, Paton or even Fred Paton could be a clue as to the name of the father.

I've had a very quick look on the 1901 and 1891 censuses for a Fred Paton - possible father. There look to be one or two (eg a 33 year old in Aberdeenshire in the 1891 caught my eye) but no way of knowing if any of their paths ever crossed with Jeannie's.    Assuming a first name of Fred was just a stab in the dark anyway. 

[Ruskie]

Just throwing this into the mix ...

In 1891 in Dundee is a Paton family including a 12 year old son Frederick W.

Father George is a "seedsman". I was wondering if this might tally with the family story about the mystery father being a gardener, if son was later employed in a similar occupation to his father. 

Added: In 1901 that Fred is a "seedsman" aged 22 but living in Fife. Considering the distance between there and Aberdeen and Fyvie Castle it seems unlikely he would've had any contact with Jeannie. 

[Tink22]

Marriage certificate states only jeannie, cant tie in any paton in Aberdeenshire with being a gardener if that story is true

Jeannie was a seamstress/dressmaker so no idea where she possibly worked

[Ruskie]

I was just going to ask you what Jeannie's occupation was - I found a Jeannie Ogg in Fife in 1901 but this one is a schoolteacher.

I think I am on the wrong track so will give up on that theory.

[MonicaL]

She looks to have been in hospital, Royal Infirmary Aberdeen, for 1901. Her occuption is given as domestic servant on this entry.

Monica

[Ruskie]

She looks to have been in hospital, Royal Infirmary Aberdeen, for 1901. Her occuption is given as domestic servant on this entry.

Monica

I saw that one too Monica, and wondered if she was the right Jeannie.