Herbert Ward Syred, Norton Surrey

[jann]

Hi,

Per an online tree, Herbert Ward Syred was born @1808 in Norton, Surrey.  I can't find him or Norton Surrey.

Any help appreciated.  thanks,  Jann

[CaroleW]

Have you contacted the tree owner to see where they got the info from?

Have you found him on any census?

[Annette7]

His parents are shown as Thomas Syred and Mary Ayres who married 16/11/1802 Princes Risborough, Buckinghamshire.   This couple having children baptised there from 1804 until 1818 and don't appear to have left in that time frame, nor did they have a son named Herbert!

As to Herbert Ward Syred - the only time I can see a mention of him is on a daughter Caroline's baptism in 1838 at Dorking, Surrey when he is plain Herbert (and mother Hannah).   Her mother said to be Hannah Carpenter and looks like Caroline is with maternal grandparents in 1841.   There is no marriage between a Hannah Carpenter and said Herbert either.

Would suggest this tree is somewhat up the pole (as sadly so many are).

Annette

[rosie99]

The 1838 baptism of Caroline also mentions that Herbert was a Soldier

[softly softly]

There's a marriage 21st February 1859 of a Caroline Syred to William Quinnell. Her father recorded as Herbert Syred occ "servant". Image on Anc*

John

Added

QUINNELL, WILLIAM  JOHN     SYRED 
GRO Reference: 1859  D Quarter in EPSOM  Volume 02A  Page 17

[Michael J]

Norton may be a misreading of Merton, in bad handwriting. Alternatively, is it the pronunciation of Norbiton in local dialect. Both places are relatively close to Epsom & Dorking.

Michael.

[jann]

Thanks to all who responded.  I've been researching Herbert Syred for 10+ years.  Problem: he appears in no census, civil registration, ship's list etc.  The only likely church record is a baptism in 1818 in Brandeston Suffolk.  Mother: Sarah Syred.  Other than that he appears only on his daughter's records.  Sarah Syred and Hannah Carpenter Syred are not in the 1840 or 1850 census records but both appear in 1860.  Hannah is a widow living with her father.

Yesterday I received information ,via family history (a note inside the cover of a book), that Herbert died at a military barracks in Ireland probably around 1850.  While checking into that I discovered this totally "new" Herbert Ward Syred!

I welcome any suggestions.  Jann

[cath151]

Hi
There is a christening Dorking Surrey 17th Oct 1838
Caroline Hannah Syred
Parents Herbert and Hannah, Ranmores Common, Surrey.
Herbert is a soldier

In 1841 Ranmores Common Dorking there is a Caroline Syred aged 2 living with a James and Elizabeth Carpenter.
Could this be the daughter?

Cathy

[cath151]

In 1851
Same address
Caroline Syred (transcibed Tyred on FindMyPast) aged 12 grandaughter of James and Elizabeth Carpenter.
In 1861 there is a Hannah Syred 48 widow living with father James Carpenter in Great Brookham, Surrey.
Cathy