John William Beasley Bould or Boull

[AsH62]

Hi. I am trying to track down the life of John William Beasley Bould/Boull before his marriage in 1869. All of his documents give his POB as Ottery St Mary in 1847 but there is no trace of him there. He used the name Bould to begin with and his father was John Bould, a farmer on the marriage certificate in 1869. For at least another another ten years John and his wife Jane nee Anstey had the surname Bould for themselves and their children but it started to become Boull in about 1881.
They were married and lived in Topsham for the rest of their lives and are buried in Topsham cemetery with the surname Boull.
From birth to 1869 John is invisible and it is driving me crazy.
Any ideas would be gratefully received.
Thanks
Alison

[Milliepede]

John William Beasley Bould/Boull

What record(s) do the William Beasley names appear on please?

There's a John Bull father John born Ottery St Mary c1844 but don't think he is your man. 

[BumbleB]

Just to add that the Banns give another surname for John - Bouell - although the marriage entry does just say Boull.  Not that that is a lot of help as he didn't sign the register. 

Apologies for my error - surname is BOULD

[BumbleB]

3 April 1899 marriage for son, John William = John William Beasley Boull (Labourer) son of John William Beasley Boull (Market Gardener). 

Birth registration in 1876 - St Thomas RD - John William Boull - GRO gives mmn = Anstey.

[AsH62]

Hi. Thanks for the replies and help.
John appears with the full name  John William Beasley Boull on his grave stone in Topsham although it is spelled without the a in the middle so is Besley.
The registration of death also gives him his full name with the Beasley spelling.
His son who had the same name always appears with all complete name of John William Bealey Boull but actually now I look the father only has that full name at the end of his life!
I have tried looking up Beasley families in Ottery St Mary but that hasn't worked either.
I have seen the Banns online but have also sent off for the marriage certificate to see if there is anything more there. The POB is consistnatly Ottery St Mary.
Their children were almost all baptised as Bould and the Topsham First School records are online and the children of John and Jane all seem to be Bould.
This just seems to be getting more complicated but he must have existed before his marriage ...
Alison

[Milliepede]

Maybe he found out his father was William Beasley and added those names - it's a puzzler.

As you say he must have been somewhere before marriage.  Maybe he had a different name at birth then his mother married a Boull? 

Are there any possible Boull marriages (male or female parent) c1869. 

[Dundee]

..... his father was John Bould, a farmer on the marriage certificate in 1869.

.... have also sent off for the marriage certificate to see if there is anything more there.

Whose marriage cert have you sent for?

Debra 

[BumbleB]

If you've seen the 1869 Banns on-line - at FindMyPast - then the marriage is also there.

AND I have to apologise for the error in my previous post - 1869 - surname is BoulD 

[AsH62]

I have sent off for the 1869 certificate for John and Jane although I suspect that I am throwing £11 away. Jane and John lived a few doors down from me in Topsham and John became the town scavenger. Old people in the town used to talk about his drinking and he appears in lots of newspaper articles where he is in court for d and d.
Usually when I can't find someone it's because they are in a different country or with the navy but he is definitely a labourer. The only other anomaly is in 1877 when there was a Robert Bould admitted to Topsham first school. He was born on 6th April 1873 and his father was also Robert. John and Jane had a son called Robert Samuel Bould who was baptised on the 2nd Aug 1874 so not the same boy but I can't find any evidence of that father and son combo anywhere else.
There is something very fishy about this family!