POLAND (Germany?) Birth of Adam Grzybowski about 1806. Possible death in US.

[Gaie]

Have a look at the Polish Biographical Index:

https://www.rootschat.com/links/01qge/

In it you will find:

Drelinkiewicz Soter – auch (also or alias) Saturnin (c.1844-1854 - relevant dates), Demokrat (occupation) – Tyrowicz – F II 70, 302, and

Grzybowski, Adam (c.1844-1854 - relevant dates) Demokrat (occupation) – Tyrowicz F II 112, 16.

In 1964 Marian Tyrowicz published Towarzystwo Demokratyczne Polskie.  Przywodcy i kadry czlonkiwskie.  Przewodnik biobibliograficzny - Polish Democratic Society.  Leaders and members.  Bibliographic guide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Democratic_Society

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krak%C3%B3w_uprising

I wonder if Adam & Soter went back to Poland and joined in the Kraków Uprising?  It would explain their disappearances.

Gaie

Added:  I have visions of Pride and Prejudice when the dashing Polish cavalry officers descended on Edinburgh - the ladies must have swooned !!! 

[Gaie]

Aha!!!!

Baptism record

Year       1814
Record    134
Name     Soter Kajetan
Surname DRELINKIEWICZ
Father     (Sebastian on index) Kazimierz
Mother    Katarzyna BORKOWSKA
Parish     Kraków WNMP (Mariacki) - same parish as the previous record found for Adam

[GeoffTurner]

Thanks Gaie, there's a lot there to take in.
There seems to be no reason that Adam could not have been a sub-lieutenant in the Polish army and a doctor at the same time. I know from my own father's experiences during World War II that his doctors were all officers.
The fact that Soter was baptised in Krakow in 1814 and Adam was his friend makes the Krakow baptism for Adam in 1812 more likely. I still think we might have just the one Adam Grzybowski here.
Thanks for the transcription of the "divorce" document. I should have called it an annulment, not a divorce, perhaps. But it shows it was possible to have a marriage dissolved in Scotland around that time. Soter must have done something pretty terrible for Jemima to win such an emphatic annulment, you would think.
Yes I now have a copy of the 1841 Census original. My cousin and I discussed the "Government allow" yesterday. We have no proof that he worked as a surgeon in Edinburgh before taking the job at St Thomas's in London, where he definitely was a surgeon. If he was living off donations to Polish emigres from wealthy backers, including nobles, it might have been easier to put "Government allow" in the limited space available. If Adam was not working as a doctor in Edinburgh, and we have no evidence that he was, then it would make sense that Maria was still working as a dressmaker. And we know that the letter about the money was sent to Adam at Maria's parents' home, so he had not set up a family in separate premises. And remember that by 1851 Adam was in London. He joined the lodge there in 1847 and married Harriet in 1848. So even if Maria had given up her dressmaking when she married, she might have needed to return to it by 1851. In 1848 Adam had married his young new wife, who perhaps was already pregnant, so might not have been sending much money (if any) back to Edinburgh.
I think the reference to Berlin is where Adam got his medical degree, not where he was living. You still see that on qualifications these days. And the listing on the Royal College of Surgeons Calendar probably stayed there until someone removed it, just as we sometimes find people on electoral rolls long after they are dead. It would not be something that you had to pay to keep renewing.
The 1841 Census is the only one I have, but I do have Maria's death certificate in 1877, aged 67, where she is described as "widow of Adam Grzybowski surgeon". I think that supports the theory that the Adam Grzybowski in Edinburgh who married Maria was the same Adam Grzybowski who was described as a surgeon at St Thomas's when he joined the Polish National Lodge in London in 1847 -- and who married Harriet. Unless the first marriage was annulled, and we have no evidence of that, the second marriage was bigamous.
Geoff

[GeoffTurner]

It's possible Adam took part in the Krakow Uprising in February 1846. His last Scottish child was born in 1844. He was in London by 1847. But we don't know if he went directly from Edinburgh to London or via Poland.
He married again in London in 1848, then Harriet had the baby in France in 1849. But when they arrived in New Orleans from Le Havre on 21 Dec 1949 he gave his birth place and last residence as Poland. So that indicates France was merely a stepping stone for a temporary return to Poland -- perhaps to show off his young wife and new baby to his parents. Now who's getting all Jane Austen lol
Geoff

[Erato]

It looks like Adam wasn't admitted as a surgeon until about the end of 1846.  His acceptance by the Royal College of Surgeons was reported by the Lancet on 2 January 1847.  Preusmably he couldn't practice his profession until that time so maybe he lived on handouts until he was qualified by the Royal College.
    
 http://www.rootschat.com/links/01qdg/

[GeoffTurner]

Thanks, that all fits. He said he was a surgeon at St Thomas's when he joined the Polish National Lodge in London in 1847. So he didn't practise in Edinburgh.

[GeoffTurner]

Gaie commented that it all sounded very Jane Austen, with the Polish officers sweeping the Edinburgh ladies off their feet. Well, this takes that image a bit further. As well as Adam and Soter there was another Polish officer at the fundraising dinner in 1835 named Joseph Peichowski. In 1838 Joseph married Maria Bremner's younger sister Georgina at St Cuthbert in Edinburgh -- where Adam and Maria were married in 1834. Joseph and Georgina had a son Levi in about 1840 and a daughter named Rose (or Rosa) about 1841. Then they emigrated to the US, arriving in New York on the Hebrew on 1 Sep 1845. The passenger list says Joseph, 37, was born in Poland, and Georgina, 24, and the two children were born in Scotland. That would give approximate birth dates of 1808 for Joseph and 1821 for Georgina. (I have from other sources that she may have been born in Sep 1819, however.) It has also been suggested that the son was named Louis but the passenger list is fairly clear. Perhaps they had two boys, Louis and Levi. It seems that from New York the family moved to Alabama, where Joseph joined up to fight for the Confederacy side with the 36th Regiment, Alabama Infantry, which was raised in May 1862. I'm told there might be a slight discrepancy in age between the Polish Joseph and the Alabama Joseph, but I haven't been able to locate a birth date in the Alabama infantry records. However. It seems Joseph's daughter Rose/Rosa married Eugene Pillard in Mobile, Alabama, sometime before 1860, so that strengthens the case for it being the same Joseph. Rose Pillard is on the Census in Mobile in 1860 and 1870, in Galveston in 1880 and 1900, and back in Mobile in 1910. She died in Mobile, but I am not sure when. So that all fills out the picture of the Edinburgh ladies swooning over the dashing Police officers -- and raises some more questions, I guess!
Geoff   

[GeoffTurner]

Dashing Polish officers, not dashing Police officers, of course!

[Erato]

Marriage of Rose Ann P. Hoskey and Eugene Pillard, 24 December 1855 in Mobile.  Rose's father is named as Joseph Piechowski.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01qgx/



Marriage of Louis Piechowski and Emily Fagan, December 1863  in Mobile.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01qgy/