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Re: POLAND (Germany?) Birth of Adam Grzybowski about 1806. Possible death in US.
« Reply #45 on: Saturday 06 March 21 05:23 GMT (UK) »
Back to the drawing boards, then.
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: POLAND (Germany?) Birth of Adam Grzybowski about 1806. Possible death in US.
« Reply #46 on: Saturday 06 March 21 05:37 GMT (UK) »
Yep. We still have my inquiry to the Perry County Historical Society as a possible source of more information, if they reply. That's if he died and Harriet was truly a widow, as she claimed back in London. But if he deserted Harriet and headed for the goldfields under a new name, we might have to accept the trail going cold on us. 
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Re: POLAND (Germany?) Birth of Adam Grzybowski about 1806. Possible death in US.
« Reply #47 on: Saturday 06 March 21 06:11 GMT (UK) »
I've had pretty good luck with small town libraries.  The librarians seem pleased that someone [especially a foreigner!] is interested in their podunk village and go out of their way to be helpful.  So I think Perry County will answer with whatever information they have, if any.  If he changed his name, it's practically hopeless except maybe for a DNA link-up.  If he died somewhere under his own name, he may eventually turn up as more records become available [death registers, Find-a-Grave, newspapers].

Maybe he deserted her but it's also possible that she deserted him.  I can see how a London girl might have been unimpressed with life in Perry County.  Even now Brazeau is described as an unincorporated community [pop. 23] which "once boasted a general store, a bank, and a John Deere dealership."  Maybe she just said, "Enough!  I'm going home."
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: POLAND (Germany?) Birth of Adam Grzybowski about 1806. Possible death in US.
« Reply #48 on: Sunday 07 March 21 12:54 GMT (UK) »
this is a link to the Digital Library of Poznan

https://www.wbc.poznan.pl/dlibra/show-content/publication/edition/211937?id=211937#dcId=1615116827461&p=1

some sort of official document (in Polish) in Scotland dealing with money
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He could have originated from the Poznan area
http://poznan-project.psnc.pl/index.php?lang=en


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Re: POLAND (Germany?) Birth of Adam Grzybowski about 1806. Possible death in US.
« Reply #49 on: Sunday 07 March 21 17:40 GMT (UK) »
Here´s a translation of the Polish text

November 19, 1839, Tuesday
Mr. Grzyboski,
Please go to the Royal Bank of Scotland and withdraw two pounds sterling, which I have deposited in your name with the local bankers, Messrs. Coutts & Co. [?].
This money, intended for you, was sent to me by Mr. Karol Sienkiewicz from Paris.
After withdrawal, please send me a receipt confirming you have received the money.
In the receipt, please state explicitly that you received the two pounds sterling sent to you through me, by Mr Sienkiewicz.
Should the banker ask who the money was sent by answer with Niedźwiedzki
Write the receipt exactly as I described above.

With best regards
Niedźwiedzki, servant

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Re: POLAND (Germany?) Birth of Adam Grzybowski about 1806. Possible death in US.
« Reply #50 on: Sunday 07 March 21 21:26 GMT (UK) »
And it is addressed to Adam at Mr Bremner's house in Edinburgh. Adam's first wife Maria's maiden name was Bremner, so he is living with his in-laws. Definitely our man.

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Re: POLAND (Germany?) Birth of Adam Grzybowski about 1806. Possible death in US.
« Reply #51 on: Thursday 18 March 21 23:04 GMT (UK) »
Poznan genealogist Dr Lukasz Bielecki was unable to locate a birth record for Adam and warns again that Grzybowski is a fairly common name. He saw nothing in that letter held in the Digital Library of Poznan that ties Adam to the region. In his words, "I do not think there is any hint they were in Poznan. You probably allude to the fact that the letter that you sent me a link to, is presently in possession of a historic library near Poznan City, but its author was born in East Poland, was located in Parish when writing it, and the letter is a receipt of money from A. Grzybowski and does not say anything else of worth." He does not offer an explanation for why it would be in a Poznan library if not connected with the area.

So in the absence of online BDM records for Poland/Prussia, I guess the only remaining hope would be to find a list of medical graduates from Berlin which might have Adam's name and his place of origin, but I have not been able to find such a list.

My cousins were hoping they could visit Poland to see where their great great grandfather was born. I'm not sure we have firmed that up enough yet. 

But we certainly know a lot more about Adam thanks to the contributions from Rootschatters, so thank you, one and all.

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Re: POLAND (Germany?) Birth of Adam Grzybowski about 1806. Possible death in US.
« Reply #52 on: Friday 19 March 21 11:19 GMT (UK) »
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I still think the best bet would be to contact the Freemason Lodges he Was a member of.
People joining the honourable society would  definately state true facts when joining

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Re: POLAND (Germany?) Birth of Adam Grzybowski about 1806. Possible death in US.
« Reply #53 on: Friday 19 March 21 11:25 GMT (UK) »
Yes, I will try to hunt down contact details for them. Thanks for the thought.