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Re: POLAND (Germany?) Birth of Adam Grzybowski about 1806. Possible death in US.
« Reply #36 on: Friday 05 March 21 00:19 GMT (UK) »
Julian and his family wound up in Scotland County, Missouri [near the NE corner of the state].  They had a 40 acre farm NW of the village of Memphis [in section 16 of Miller Twsp.].  The plat maps and other Scotland County information are here:

https://www.scotland.mogenweb.org/

I don't see any website for a county historical society but there is a public library.  They might be worth a try.

https://scotland.lib.mo.us/
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: POLAND (Germany?) Birth of Adam Grzybowski about 1806. Possible death in US.
« Reply #37 on: Friday 05 March 21 00:38 GMT (UK) »
I had a chuckle when I saw that grave was in Scotland. The better-known Scotland is presumably where his first family was, if we have the right guy. The one he had before the two apparently bigamous marriages. I haven't worked out how to contact the person responsible for that tree yet, although I did find the register page listing the 1853 marriage. How did you get the name for the author of the tree?

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Re: POLAND (Germany?) Birth of Adam Grzybowski about 1806. Possible death in US.
« Reply #38 on: Friday 05 March 21 01:09 GMT (UK) »
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/97MY-LVY

Click on 'Dr. Julian Arthur Grabowski' in the tree.  Then, under his name click on 'Sources.'  In the right hand column there's a list of people who have contributed to the tree.  You can send them a message by clicking on their names.

I hope he's the right guy [and that it can be convincingly demonstrated] but it could just be a weird coincidence.
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: POLAND (Germany?) Birth of Adam Grzybowski about 1806. Possible death in US.
« Reply #39 on: Friday 05 March 21 15:46 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if Julian Grabowski ever got a Missouri medical license and, if so, what background information he provided?   It looks like the Missouri State Board of Health started issuing licenses in 1883.  I sent them an email to inquire.
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis


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Re: POLAND (Germany?) Birth of Adam Grzybowski about 1806. Possible death in US.
« Reply #40 on: Friday 05 March 21 19:10 GMT (UK) »
on Adam and Harriets marriage lines his father's name is given as Peter and he is a barrister. Is this the same as Adam and  Maria's marriage lines in Scotland. Thus making sure it really is the same man.
Kidney,Kitney Detling Stockbury Chatham. Wenham Biddenden. Waltham.  Pemble Birchington/St Peters. Sibun Medway Chatham/Gravesend

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Re: POLAND (Germany?) Birth of Adam Grzybowski about 1806. Possible death in US.
« Reply #41 on: Friday 05 March 21 22:34 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, Erato. I can see this fellow has you intrigued. As for the Scottish marriage details, Maid of Kent, I can't access them from Australia but a cousin in Scotland might be able to help.

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Re: POLAND (Germany?) Birth of Adam Grzybowski about 1806. Possible death in US.
« Reply #42 on: Friday 05 March 21 22:49 GMT (UK) »
The FamilySearch record of the Scottish marriage gives Maria's father but not Adam's father. There is no image available. But I think we are pretty sure these two marriages are the same man. The name is the same. He is in the masonic lodge in Edinburgh and then London. His last child in Edinburgh is born in 1844 and he appears in London in 1847. But I will see if my Scottish cousin can add anything. I'm pretty certain we know his story as far as Perry County, Missouri, in 1850. It's the jump from there to the marriage in St Charles in 1853 that remains a leap of faith at this stage.
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Re: POLAND (Germany?) Birth of Adam Grzybowski about 1806. Possible death in US.
« Reply #43 on: Friday 05 March 21 23:02 GMT (UK) »
"I can see this fellow has you intrigued"

I like tracking the slippery ones.
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: POLAND (Germany?) Birth of Adam Grzybowski about 1806. Possible death in US.
« Reply #44 on: Saturday 06 March 21 00:52 GMT (UK) »
I looked for Julian Grabowski in Ancestry trees. He sounds like a different guy. Those trees have him born 29 Oct 1818 in Radcze, Lubelskie, Poland. His father is Francis Ludwig Von Grabowski (1784-1851) and his mother is Anna Christina Pohlmann (1786-1871). I have taken that from a tree that has pictures of Julian Grabowski and Margaret Wiley, so that looks pretty reliable.

I think that means we are back to wondering what happened to Adam in Perry County after the 1 Jun 1850 Census that sent Harriet scurrying back to London, giving birth to Sophia in New York on the way home.

Geoff