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Offline Maid of Kent

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Re: The Mystery Of My Grandmothers Parentage
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 14 February 21 23:56 GMT (UK) »
I think I found Phoebe on the 1901 37 Crescent rd West ham servant to William Lyon gives her dob c1882 born Bow London which is a stones throw from Stepney. might be her  but it doesnt help much
Kidney,Kitney Detling Stockbury Chatham. Wenham Biddenden. Waltham.  Pemble Birchington/St Peters. Sibun Medway Chatham/Gravesend

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Re: The Mystery Of My Grandmothers Parentage
« Reply #10 on: Monday 15 February 21 00:51 GMT (UK) »
Yes, that all makes complete sense, as looking back, I concluded myself that Alice Walls was the mother, based on the 1939 census. I cant believe I was that stupid!
I do believe that its the right Walter Charles Hayward in the 1939 census living with Alice and William Walls in Edmonton, as the birth date/place is exactly right. William must be the brother or related somehow. I'd love to know what happened to him.
it may be tough finding out about Phoebes life.
 Thank you all so very much, I really appreciate everything more than you know x

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« Reply #11 on: Monday 15 February 21 08:45 GMT (UK) »
This might be the William Henry who married Alice Hall.  Phoebe’s brother?

William Henry Henderson  S 1880  Stepney  mmn Wren

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« Reply #12 on: Monday 15 February 21 09:09 GMT (UK) »
There’s also a Harold Walls Henderson reg S 1886 MEOT mmn Wren


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Re: The Mystery Of My Grandmothers Parentage
« Reply #13 on: Monday 15 February 21 10:21 GMT (UK) »
1939 Dorothy's address is on the same road as that of Walter C Hayward etc.
Henrietta Hall married Henry William Brand in 1908 - so I take it that these might be the relatives who raised her?

(Sorry, I'm trying not to give details straight from the 1939 register, but if you look up Dorothy you'll see what I mean)
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Re: The Mystery Of My Grandmothers Parentage
« Reply #14 on: Monday 15 February 21 11:19 GMT (UK) »
Henrietta Brand nee Hall is Alice Louisa Walls nee Hall's elder sister.
Kidney,Kitney Detling Stockbury Chatham. Wenham Biddenden. Waltham.  Pemble Birchington/St Peters. Sibun Medway Chatham/Gravesend

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« Reply #15 on: Monday 15 February 21 11:48 GMT (UK) »
Morning...

 Due to Phoebe dying in 1920 Dorothy would have been a small child so likely Alice and William raised her. She then moves in with aunts sister when an adult.

 Henry Brand witnesses the marriage of Alberta Emily Hall ( sister to Alice & Henrietta) in 1916.

 The father is listed as Alexander Marcus Hall a butcher.

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Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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« Reply #16 on: Monday 15 February 21 12:05 GMT (UK) »
Background for William Henry Walls....

 Enlisted Inf Lab Corp Northants regiment number 35366 in 1915. Address 31 Claremont St.

 I wonder in Walter has anything I'll look further.

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Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: The Mystery Of My Grandmothers Parentage
« Reply #17 on: Monday 15 February 21 12:35 GMT (UK) »
Marriage

 John Walls bach decorator father John a carpenter
 Julia Wren spin father William a carman
 St Peter's Vauxhall 26 July 1874.

 Tazzie
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

 This information is Crown Copyright from
   www.nationalarchives.gov.uk