Goosey Goosey gander.

[Viktoria]

Oh ,lucky you !
Barney played a piece and called it “ Is it Mozart ?”
But would never say either way.
Not a sheet of music between them ,all from memory.
Luke’s diction was so clear ,loud and strong.
 Thanks.
Viktoria.

[Viktoria]

Just to get back on topic  —— as I am guilty of straying ———has anyone watched the HS 2 programme .
The number of graveyards is astonishing ,and often even the very poor buried in shrouds had tin or lead name plates etc ,so can be identified.
What  will be done with all the skeletons ?well, supposedly re interred.
A massive task.
Wonder what many other Nursery Rhymes mean, I think the fact that goose had another less innocent meaning than the nursery rhyme is coincidence.
Humpty Dumpty supposedly being a  skit  on The Duke of York ,very overweight ,hence the egg shape ,George IV ‘s brother .
Often historical figures being lampooned are the origins it seems .
Anyone know more ?
Viktoria.

[Retriever]

How about Lucy Locket lost her pocket? I think I heard somewhere that that had something to do with
streetwalkers.

Will now have to look it up as cannot remember the rest🤦🏻‍♀️

[Viktoria]

Lucy Locket,lost her pocket
Kitty fisher found it —— the rest escapes me.


Little Jack Horner is supposed to be when a clerk, collecting the deeds of a Monastery stole out of the package  a”  plum” ie a very rich one and kept it,seemingly the  family still own it today ,quite unashamedly!
This was when Henry Vlll was dissolving (dissoluting  ) the monasteries as he needed funds and also wanted to break with Rome - Anne Boleyn and all that .



Viktoria.

[ThrelfallYorky]

" ... there was not a penny in it
But a ribbon round it"
I seem to recall it was about her losing her "good name", from losing something else!

[treedahlia]

"Don't care didn't care
Don't care was wild
Don't care stole plum and pear
Don't care was hung
Don't care was put in a pot
And boiled till he was done".

Scary tale

[Retriever]

I don’t think I’ve heard that before, scary indeed.

I looked for Lucy Locket references on the web and the rhyme seems to be thought of as a game played in a circle, which I definitely don’t remember..

There is another post however saying that the game was Atisket, atasket, I’ve lost my yellow basket. That I do remember.

[ThrelfallYorky]

It was, as I dimly recall,  played as a loose circle of seated children, and one (Lucy) circling the ring on the outside, with a purse or other small item in her hand the circle  did the chant:
"Lucy Locket lost her pocket,
Kittie Fisher found it
There was not a penny in it
But a ribbon round it"
and then something like a chant of "Drop it, drop it, as the child moving outside the circle got up speed, then dropped the "purse"  (pocket) behind one child who then had to scramble to their feet , and run round the circle's perimeter, trying to get back to their seat before "Lucy".
Thrilling it wasn't.

[weste]

Seem to rember they used hankies