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Soldier ancestor early 1800's
« on: Sunday 28 August 05 12:39 BST (UK) »
Hi, I have read on a marriage entry that one of my five times greatgrandfathers was a soldier when he got married in 1809. I am guessing that he was involved in the Napoleonic Wars but am not really sure and have looked on the National Archives catalogue but can't find his name at all. He lived in Leek, Staffordshire and his name was Joseph Bowyer. He also didn't die as a soldier as he is down on the 1841 census for Leek as being 65. Please can anybody tell me where to turn to next.

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Re: Soldier ancestor early 1800's
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 28 August 05 13:00 BST (UK) »
Only soldiers who completed full service (or were wounded and invalided out) and consequently received a pension are down on The National Archives database. Many soldiers served just a few years and left the army.
You could probably tell whether your Joseph continued to serve long after his marriage by where his children were born and when if you know that information.
If you know what regiment Joseph served in you could follow his army career at The national Archives through the regimental quarterly muster books - the pay lists, but you would need to know his regiment to find him in these records.

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Re: Soldier ancestor early 1800's
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 23 December 08 08:51 GMT (UK) »
I am trying to trace a Joseph Bowyer born c 1806 in Onecote, Staffordshire. His parents were Joseph Bowyer/Boyer and Ann. Could his father be your Joseph?
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Re: Soldier ancestor early 1800's
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 23 December 08 13:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi Caimein

Kena states her Joseph Bowyer married in 1809 and you state your Joseph Bowyer was born three years before.

The Onecoat family - the IGI only has coverage of Oncecoat baptisms

Joseph Boyer
Christening:  27 APR 1806   Onecote, Stafford,
Father:  Joseph Boyer
Mother:  Anne 

ELLEN BOYER
Christening:  17 APR 1808   Onecote, Stafford
Father:  JOSEPH BOYER   
Mother:  ANNE 

HARRIOT BOYER
Christening:  03 JUN 1810   Onecote, Stafford
Father:  JOSEPH BOYER 
Mother:  ANN 

Burial
31st May 1825 St Luke Onecoat
Joseph Bowyer aged 55


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Re: Soldier ancestor early 1800's
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 23 December 08 15:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi Valda and Caimein, it looks like this Joseph Bowyer may be a different one to mine but they may be related somewhere along the line, you never know

Anna
Mullon, Fowell, Thornely, Wilding, Lowndes,Gallimore - Cheshire
Routledge, Bell, Gillesby, Armstrong, Forster, Ewart, Nixon, Kennedy,Reay,Wright,Nattrass,Little,Richardson - Cumberland
Winsborough, Hannabus, Copp, Salter, Bray, Williams, Bonney, Creedy, Matthews, Kelner - Devon
Minto, - Durham
Allaker, Fitch,Groom,Queary - Essex
Steeple, Moult, Woodcock - Lancashire
Trafford, Hambleton, Cordon, Sweetman, Goldstraw, Brough, Barton, Dawson, Sutton, Stevenson - Staffordshire
Huess - Somerset

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Re: Soldier ancestor early 1800's
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 23 December 08 20:37 GMT (UK) »
I have borrowed the Onecote Church register and found the details of Joseph's birth. I cannot find his parent's marriage and was hoping Joseph may be a family name and he could be related to the Bowyer's at Leek.

My Joseph was sent to Australia as a convict. He was convicted of Highway robbery. His convict record says he was born c 1806 in Staffordshire. The Onecote Joseph is the only one that matches. His first two children were named Joseph and Ann.
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Re: Soldier ancestor early 1800's
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 23 December 08 21:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi, the best of luck with your research and merry christmas. I don't suppose you came across any Cordon's/Corden's on your travels through the register did you please?, I am back to a James Cordon born about 1770's at latest (married 1792)

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Mullon, Fowell, Thornely, Wilding, Lowndes,Gallimore - Cheshire
Routledge, Bell, Gillesby, Armstrong, Forster, Ewart, Nixon, Kennedy,Reay,Wright,Nattrass,Little,Richardson - Cumberland
Winsborough, Hannabus, Copp, Salter, Bray, Williams, Bonney, Creedy, Matthews, Kelner - Devon
Minto, - Durham
Allaker, Fitch,Groom,Queary - Essex
Steeple, Moult, Woodcock - Lancashire
Trafford, Hambleton, Cordon, Sweetman, Goldstraw, Brough, Barton, Dawson, Sutton, Stevenson - Staffordshire
Huess - Somerset

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Re: Soldier ancestor early 1800's
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 24 December 08 03:55 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, I only registered the Bowyer/Boyers I could find.
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Re: Soldier ancestor early 1800's
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 04 January 09 18:22 GMT (UK) »
Only soldiers who completed full service (or were wounded and invalided out) and consequently received a pension are down on The National Archives database.
If you know what regiment Joseph served in you could follow his army career at The national Archives through the regimental quarterly muster books - the pay lists, but you would need to know his regiment to find him in these records.

Regards
Valda

Hi,
So unless they had a pension, there's no way of finding any details about their home location?
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