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Death of ELizabeth APPLETON 1859-1861
« on: Wednesday 10 February 21 12:36 GMT (UK) »
I'm searching for the death or burial record of Elizabeth Appleton (nee Quine), born 1828, who died sometime between her wedding day(15 November 1859) and the day her husband, John, remarried (28 March 1861) as a widower. Both weddings were on the Isle of Man. Elizabeth was born at Castletown, and was living there in 1841 and 1851. Her husband John was a soldier, attached to the Castletown Barracks.

It therefore seems likely that Elizabeth died and was buried in or close to Castletown. Confirmation of her death / burial would be much appreciated.

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Re: Death of ELizabeth APPLETON 1859-1861
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 24 February 21 11:24 GMT (UK) »
There is no mention of Elizabeth Appleton on "Isle of Man Burials".
https://www.mannincloud.info/burials/_bur_index.html

Also nothing under her maiden name?
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Re: Death of ELizabeth APPLETON 1859-1861
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 24 February 21 11:47 GMT (UK) »
 she married to John at Malew, Isle of Man according to Geneanet - is this correct ? if so - is Malew close to Castletown ? or was there a barracks there ?
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Re: Death of ELizabeth APPLETON 1859-1861
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 24 February 21 12:05 GMT (UK) »
Just a thought - if Elizabeth became very ill - is it possible she was sent to Liverpool for Hospital treatment and died in Liverpool ??  probably buried in the Isle of Man - but her death may have been registered in Liverpool ??   
DEATH
MAR QTR 1861
Appleton    Elizabeth        Liverpool    8b   143

I don't want to be pessimistic - but it is possible  ??? ??? she may have died early January and John re married within 10 weeks - did they have a new born baby ?  maybe he needed a mother urgently ?
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Re: Death of ELizabeth APPLETON 1859-1861
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 24 February 21 17:45 GMT (UK) »
Thank you both for your responses today. It’s puzzling that the burial of Elizth Apppleton (nee Quine) is not in the online burial index for the Isle of Man, either under Appleton or Quine.

Her marriage to John Appleton in 1859 was at the parish church of Malew, and I understand that Castletown is close by. Their marriage lines indicate that John was then a soldier at Castletown barracks.

Accidental death, a fatal illness, or death in childbirth seem to be the most likely causes of Elizth’s death during the sixteen month span between her wedding day (15 Nov 1859) and when her husband, John, remarried (28 March 1861). Elizth’s parents are shown as living in Castletown in the 1861 census, so I would have expected her burial to be in the Castletown / Malew area.

I don’t know if there was a hospital on the Isle of Man in the mid 19th century, but the idea that Elizth could have been sent to Liverpool for hospital treatment is an interesting one, especially in view of the death registration of an Elizth Appleton there in the first quarter of 1861.

Corporal John Appleton was discharged from the Army on 1 January 1861 – after 22 years service –he was then aged 41.

Described as “widower”, John remarried (to Catherine Curphey, aged 28, at Kirk Braddan, near Douglas, on 28 March 1861) and a few days later, when the 1861 census took place, he and his new bride were lodging in Portland Street, Liverpool, but there was no baby with them. They subsequently relocated to Birmingham, before starting a family there the following year.

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Re: Death of ELizabeth APPLETON 1859-1861
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 24 February 21 20:41 GMT (UK) »
she married to John at Malew, Isle of Man according to Geneanet - is this correct ? if so - is Malew close to Castletown ? or was there a barracks there ?

The town of Castletown lies geographically within the parish of Malew, but was administered separately. Castletown was the capital of the Isle of Man, and the House of Keys, home of the Manx Parliament, was there until 1874 until it moved to Douglas.

There was a barracks at Castletown for many years; Castle Rushen in the town (1265) was fortified over the years and was a residence for the Kings of Mann and Lords of Mann. It was also a prison at times!  Robert the Bruce laid siege to and captured the castle three times.

I have seen many marriages at Castletown & Malew between soldiers and local girls, in the parish registers.
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Re: Death of ELizabeth APPLETON 1859-1861
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 24 February 21 20:50 GMT (UK) »
Just a thought - if Elizabeth became very ill - is it possible she was sent to Liverpool for Hospital treatment and died in Liverpool ??  probably buried in the Isle of Man - but her death may have been registered in Liverpool ??   
DEATH
MAR QTR 1861
Appleton    Elizabeth        Liverpool    8b   143

I don't want to be pessimistic - but it is possible  ??? ??? she may have died early January and John re married within 10 weeks - did they have a new born baby ?  maybe he needed a mother urgently ?

Possibly not yours

APPLETON, ELIZABETH        
Age at death    0 
1861  M Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 143

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Re: Death of ELizabeth APPLETON 1859-1861
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 28 February 21 12:49 GMT (UK) »
The GRO website at http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/ shows that the Elizth Appleton whose death (aged 0) was registered at Liverpool in the first quarter of 1861, was born and registered in the same quarter, and that her mothers maiden name was Dodds. This was therefore not the child of Elizth Appleton nee Quine.

In any event, I feel that its far more likely that the final days of Elizth Appleton nee Quine were on the Isle of Man, probably in the Castletown / Malew area, which is where she would have lived.

Since she married John Appleton on 15 Nov 1859 at the parish church of Malew, and he remarried, as a widower, on 28 March 1861, then Elizth’s death and burial must have been during that 16 month span.

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