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Help needed death record Scotland
« on: Wednesday 10 February 21 07:42 GMT (UK) »
Hope someone knows what this means / is able to decipher it.  I have purchased death record for Alexander Menzies which strangly has no cause of death.  He died 25th April 1883 and in the margin is "see Reg of .......... Vol 2 page 56 8th May 1883."  Anyone able to tell me Register of what?
thanks in advance 
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Re: Help needed death record Scotland
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 10 February 21 07:47 GMT (UK) »
Possibly a reference to a coroner's entry / enquiry?

It might be worth seeing if the death is mentioned in the newspapers, in case it was in unusual circumstances.
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Re: Help needed death record Scotland
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 10 February 21 07:52 GMT (UK) »
I think it says register of cor ent.....ie corrected entries.
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Re: Help needed death record Scotland
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 10 February 21 07:54 GMT (UK) »
I think it says register of cor ent.....ie corrected entries.
Yes Carol, I didn't think of that - it would seem better than my suggestion.
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Re: Help needed death record Scotland
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 10 February 21 08:46 GMT (UK) »
See register of corrected entries
Volume 2 page 56
8th May 1883.

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Re: Help needed death record Scotland
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 10 February 21 08:48 GMT (UK) »
thank you all - very helpful :)
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Re: Help needed death record Scotland
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 10 February 21 08:50 GMT (UK) »
When you viewed the original image did you notice at the top the words:-

There have been 1 corrections identified with this entry

If you click on it, it takes you to Page 56 Register of Corrected Entries.  It is a bit cut off on the left, but the cause of death is given as heart disease.

Why they didn't state that on the death certificate, who knows? 
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Re: Help needed death record Scotland
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 13 February 21 16:53 GMT (UK) »
Why they didn't state that on the death certificate, who knows?

It's likely to be due to the death being sudden or unexplained, or where the person had not been seen by a doctor prior to death.  In Scotland such deaths are reported to the Procurator Fiscal who will then instruct the necessary enquiries to establish the cause of death and arrange a death certificate to be issued.  The entry on the Registration of Corrected Entries will state that the PF has authorised the identified cause of death to be recorded. 

The Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service provides some additional information:
https://www.copfs.gov.uk/investigating-deaths/our-role-in-investigating-deaths

"When a person dies in Scotland, they cannot be buried or cremated until a medical certificate giving the cause of death has been issued. This certificate must be completed by a doctor, and must show the time, place and cause of death. Most sudden and unexplained deaths are reported to the Procurator Fiscal because a doctor is unable to confirm the cause of the death and is therefore unable to issue a death certificate.

Once a death has been reported to the Procurator Fiscal, the Procurator Fiscal has legal responsibility for the deceased's body, usually until a death certificate is written by a doctor and given to the nearest relative."

I've seen RCEs for deaths as the result of accidents, for folk collapsing in the street, as well as my own great great grandfather who died sitting quietly in the backroom of a pub.

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Re: Help needed death record Scotland
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 13 February 21 16:57 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that explanation Rockford, makes sense.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire