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Re: Durkin of Mayo
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 30 January 21 13:23 GMT (UK) »
In this case, I would ignore those trees unless there is verification provided.

Bernard and Bryan can be interchanged as I said. Bernard often used for baptism and Bryan at other times.
As you say, the baptism of Bernard Golden just has the name and no other details - maybe Ballyglas? I can’t see that townland.

I hope this works from NLI site - top of right hand page
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632334#page/23/mode/1up
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Re: Durkin of Mayo
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 30 January 21 13:25 GMT (UK) »
Do you think that is your family in Wales in 1851?
That is the only time I can see Bernard in the census.
Who were the witnesses to his marriage?

Amended - he is Bryan
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Re: Durkin of Mayo
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 30 January 21 13:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi I believe they briefly lived in Wales before moving to Stockton .It seems that way on the census .I can’t see any witness on his birth census.

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Re: Durkin of Mayo
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 30 January 21 13:46 GMT (UK) »
If that is your family in Wales

1851 2501/385/29

Bryan Durkan is 14 yrs - born abt 1837.

This age would fit with Bryan in later censuses but not with a baptism in 1844.
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Re: Durkin of Mayo
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 30 January 21 13:52 GMT (UK) »
Ahh unless I have the wrong birth census  :-\ .So should I change his name from Bernard to bryan,it might be what’s picking up different details,

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Re: Durkin of Mayo
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 30 January 21 13:52 GMT (UK) »
In this case, I would ignore those trees unless there is verification provided.

Bernard and Bryan can be interchanged as I said. Bernard often used for baptism and Bryan at other times.
As you say, the baptism of Bernard Golden just has the name and no other details - maybe Ballyglas? I can’t see that townland.

I hope this works from NLI site - top of right hand page
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632334#page/23/mode/1up

I agree with heywood's advice about trees.

Some other baptisms on that page have only child's name and abode. I think townland looks like Balyglas.
Pages of baptisms Feb-April 1844 were repeated. There were parents and godparents in the other run of baptisms for Feb-April 1844.
 https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632334#page/13/mode/1up
I couldn't see Bernard on those pages. Were they baptisms for another chapel in Swinford parish or by a different priest? Custom at the time was for a priest to baptise a baby at home within a few days of birth. Bernard was probably less than a week old when he was baptised.
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Re: Durkin of Mayo
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 30 January 21 14:20 GMT (UK) »
Ahh unless I have the wrong birth census  :-\ .So should I change his name from Bernard to bryan,it might be what’s picking up different details,

A census is a count of a population on a specific date. Baptism registers and birth registers are not censuses.
You need to search for both Bernard/Barnard and Bryan/Brian/Brien. 2 of my Irish ancestors were named Honor or Honoria or Hanora in baptism and birth registers and on 1 marriage record. One was Ann and the other Annie in everyday life. Annie married her first husband as Honoria. When she registered his death 10 years later, she gave the name Annie. She married her 2nd husband as Annie and remained Annie for the rest of her life, on censuses, will, death registration, tombstone. 2 of her sons named a daughter Anne after her. The other Ann/Hanora had a son named Austin, a short form of Augustine which was common in Mayo. A baby might have been registered as Austin and baptised as Augustine. There are some other name variants in Ireland which are totally different to each other.   
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Re: Durkin of Mayo
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 30 January 21 14:43 GMT (UK) »
As Maiden Stone says there are variations in spelling.

My ancestor Brian/Bryan born 1869 had a civil birth registration in that name but baptism - a saint’s name - was Bernard.

If that is your family in Swineford parish, you can see here that there are gaps in the years for available records.
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0133

You may never find out. Sadly that is part of Irish research. I have tried to follow your Bryan and John through censuses but none I can find which give more than Mayo or Ireland.
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Re: Durkin of Mayo
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 30 January 21 14:58 GMT (UK) »
In Ireland you find townlands, then civil parishes plus Catholic parishes.

That baptism, which seems unlikely for your man, gives ‘Ballyglas’ as the townland. If I recall, the marriage had Kilbride, I think which would likely be the bride’s residence.
There is a Ballyglass townland  in Kilconduff civil parish.
https://www.johngrenham.com/c_parish/c_parish_main.php?civilparishid=1761&civilparish=Kilconduff&county=Mayo

If you scroll down that page you can see that Durkan was the most common surname there.
It is a common name in Mayo. I have researched the name on this site before in the Westport area too.
You have to try, also, the various spellings of that name.
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