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Re: HACKNEY and BOOTH in OLDHAM
« Reply #9 on: Friday 29 January 21 19:20 GMT (UK) »
First priority is to find out what happened to Agnes Hackney, and her father John, also to confirm it was her mother who died in 1924.
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Re: HACKNEY and BOOTH in OLDHAM
« Reply #10 on: Friday 29 January 21 19:59 GMT (UK) »
Oldham Cemetery records
https://adt.oldham.gov.uk/BacasWeb/GenLocDetails.aspx?ID=66302
Lilian Hackney plus others (Cumberbatch)- including Nellie Hackney 14 months

Lancashire BMD
Birth
 1923 Ellen Hackney with mmn Cumberbatch

Those Cumberbatch births have mother Cooper except Samuel with mother Howarth.

**there is a birth for Lilian Cumberbatch mmn Cooper 1899
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Re: HACKNEY and BOOTH in OLDHAM
« Reply #11 on: Friday 29 January 21 20:48 GMT (UK) »
1939 register shows a John Hackney with the birthdate you have living in Derbyshire.
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Re: HACKNEY and BOOTH in OLDHAM
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 30 January 21 11:32 GMT (UK) »
Thank you, it’s a possibility, just have to prove it.
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Re: HACKNEY and BOOTH in OLDHAM
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 31 January 21 16:16 GMT (UK) »
Lilian Hackney died on the 18th of August and was buried in Chadderton Cemetery Oldham on the 23 rd of August 1924, aged 35 years,
address 6 Back Scott Street
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Re: HACKNEY and BOOTH in OLDHAM
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 31 January 21 16:25 GMT (UK) »
Lilian Hackney died on the 18th of August and was buried in Chadderton Cemetery Oldham on the 23 rd of August 1924, aged 35 years,
address 6 Back Scott Street

The link is given in reply #10,  radcliffe  ;) I just wish I could work out who she was  :-\
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Re: HACKNEY and BOOTH in OLDHAM
« Reply #15 on: Monday 01 February 21 07:49 GMT (UK) »
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Re: HACKNEY and BOOTH in OLDHAM
« Reply #16 on: Monday 01 February 21 08:24 GMT (UK) »
Lancs opc
St Thomas Werneth
Born 23rd March
Baptised 14 th May 1899
Lilius Cumberbatch
Child of Samuel and Amelia
Father self actor minder
Abode 37 Tudor Street
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Re: HACKNEY and BOOTH in OLDHAM
« Reply #17 on: Monday 01 February 21 09:05 GMT (UK) »
Yes I saw that and Tudor Street is the address of the child Thomas H buried in the grave.
Thomas Harold, Lilian and Ernest (also in the grave) have mother’s name Cooper.
The address has Harvey Ashton and family in 1901.

Ernest shows an address of Ashton Road in 1901.
As Lil* is living in Ducie Street (off Ashton Road, Bardsley) in 1901 census with Alfred and Elizabeth Booth, it is difficult to connect this Lilian to Lilian Hackney as ‘Lilius’ Cumberbatch has mother Amelia.

I have given the OP a sighting for John Hackney with the right birth of date  but they would like to prove it so this Cumberbatch twist might be a step too far.  ;)

Added:
Just checked Ashton Road becomes Oldham Road near Ducie Street.

Tudor Street was quite close to Ashton Road, Oldham and Scott Street (so Bk Scott Street too) are off Ashton Road on the other side, close by. Nellie and Lilian Hackney’s address is Bk Scott Street.

Of course Ashton Road is a very long road  :)

The birth certificate of Ellen Hackney would help.
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