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Marriage of Susanna Priest and John Jones at Old Swinford
« on: Friday 29 January 21 09:14 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone help with this at all please? I have a marriage between John Jones and Susanna Priest on 18/08/1822 in Old Swinford but searches on Ancestry etc only give the names of the married couple and a date. There is no image or additional detail. I am trying to find out more detail such as parents' names, occupation, witnesses etc. This detail often seems to be there but not in this case. Is there a way to get more detail? Any help would be great. Thanks  :)

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Re: Marriage of Susanna Priest and John Jones at Old Swinford
« Reply #2 on: Friday 29 January 21 09:43 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks for that.

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Re: Marriage of Susanna Priest and John Jones at Old Swinford
« Reply #3 on: Friday 29 January 21 11:03 GMT (UK) »
Marriage is on FreeReg
https://www.freereg.org.uk/

Bachelor and spinster.
Witnesses Joseph Williams and Mary Moseley.

Names of fathers are not given on marriages prior to 1 July 1837. Similarly, occupations of grooms are not usually given either.


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Re: Marriage of Susanna Priest and John Jones at Old Swinford
« Reply #4 on: Friday 29 January 21 11:56 GMT (UK) »
Thank you that is helpful but I didn't realize that fathers wren't on early records. I am trying to find out his father's name. On the 1851 census he declares his age as 60 and place of birth as Edgbaston. But, I can't find any birth in 1791 that matches.
I can find a John Jones son of John and Esther Jones born 8 November 1789 and christened at St Bartholomew’s Edgbaston and a John Jones born on 9 August 1789 son of John and Mary Jones and christened at the New Meeting House Moor Street-Unitarian, Birmingham. Not sure what to ry next but thanks again for the marriage info.

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Re: Marriage of Susanna Priest and John Jones at Old Swinford
« Reply #5 on: Friday 29 January 21 13:40 GMT (UK) »
Normally I would look for all childrens bapts to see if the names John/Esther appear.

1841 in Rowley Regis we have;
John Jones 45  Grinder
Sueshanah Jones 40
Edward Jones   15
Mary Jones   15
William Jones   12
Phebe Jones   10
John Jones   7
Barbra Jones   5
Only last to children born Staffs.

Edward Jesse Jones was bapt Cradley, Worcs and a non conformist bapt at Park Lane Chapel.
(Presbyterian)
Image on Anc and transc on FreeREG

With such a common name as Jones he may be hard to pin down.
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Marriage of Susanna Priest and John Jones at Old Swinford
« Reply #6 on: Friday 29 January 21 15:04 GMT (UK) »
On the 1851 census he declares his age as 60 and place of birth as Edgbaston.

They are in Harborne in 1851
John Jones 60 Gun Barrel Grinder, born Warwickshire Edgbaston
Susannah Jones 52 Worcestershire Cradley
piece 2050 folio 313 page 29
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGZ4-7QR

With the rest of the family on the next page
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGZ4-7Q3

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Re: Marriage of Susanna Priest and John Jones at Old Swinford
« Reply #7 on: Friday 29 January 21 15:11 GMT (UK) »
Susannah Jones still in Harborne in 1861, age 62, widow. Proprietor of Houses.
piece 2127 folio 37 page 25
Image on FamilySearch
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G92X-ZW99

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Re: Marriage of Susanna Priest and John Jones at Old Swinford
« Reply #8 on: Friday 29 January 21 15:12 GMT (UK) »
This is definitely the family but finding John's parents is the problem and as you say with a common name that makes it even more difficult. I wonder why they had one child baptized in a Unitarian church and the rest in C of E? Thanks for your help by the way.