Thank you that is helpful but I didn't realize that fathers wren't on early records. I am trying to find out his father's name. On the 1851 census he declares his age as 60 and place of birth as Edgbaston. But, I can't find any birth in 1791 that matches.
I can find a John Jones son of John and Esther Jones born 8 November 1789 and christened at St Bartholomew’s Edgbaston and a John Jones born on 9 August 1789 son of John and Mary Jones and christened at the New Meeting House Moor Street-Unitarian, Birmingham. Not sure what to ry next but thanks again for the marriage info.