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Re: Vaccination priority groups
« Reply #207 on: Wednesday 31 March 21 15:02 BST (UK) »
What does anyone think about the blood clot issue with the AZ jab.  Must admit it is beginning to concern me now - particularly in regard to my 3x 30 year old girls, although I still have the 2nd one to go.

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As it was explained on the TV when this first blew up, x% of the population will get blood clots at any given time, so it is not unrealistic to expect a similar % to get blood clots soon after having the vaccine. Similarly, x% of the population will crash their car on the way back from the vaccination, will slip over in their kitchen or get bitten by a dog within 24 hours of the jab (although hopefully not all three). Doesn't mean the jab caused it, just statistical probability.
In fact, they said that the % of people that got the clots soon after getting jabbed was actually LOWER than you would statistically expect. So you could say having the vaccine IMPROVED their chances (although they were clear they weren't recommending that as a treatment  ;))

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« Reply #208 on: Wednesday 31 March 21 17:27 BST (UK) »
What does anyone think about the blood clot issue with the AZ jab.  Must admit it is beginning to concern me now - particularly in regard to my 3x 30 year old girls, although I still have the 2nd one to go.

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Purely YOUR thoughts and YOUR decision - not sure why you are trying to involve others.

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« Reply #209 on: Wednesday 31 March 21 17:55 BST (UK) »
Oh dear BumbleB - out of bed on the wrong side today maybe?

I was simply asking what anybody else thought and offering my own thoughts.  Always good to discuss an issue don't you think?

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« Reply #210 on: Wednesday 31 March 21 18:13 BST (UK) »
No - I can only get out of bed on one side!  :D

As I said, everyone is different and everyone has their own thoughts - that is why we are humans.  I just don't see the logic in involving others in YOUR concerns.   :-X :-X 

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Re: Vaccination priority groups
« Reply #211 on: Wednesday 31 March 21 18:15 BST (UK) »
What does anyone think about the blood clot issue with the AZ jab.  Must admit it is beginning to concern me now - particularly in regard to my 3x 30 year old girls, although I still have the 2nd one to go.

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There is no need for concern it is simply fear mongering, I say this as a concerned grandparent of a grandchild who had as a 13 year old a spontaneous subdural haemorrhage which before being drained (according to CT scans) had taken up about 60% of the cranial cavity before being drained.
She has had both (1st dose & 2nd dose) her Oxford/AstraZeneca covid vaccinations with no adverse symptoms at all.
You can all imagine how I felt when I first heard about the fear about the vaccines just after she had had her first vaccination.
I had already done some research into the subject after her hospitalization 4 years ago and knew these things did effect a percentage of the female population (Higher than males) though mainly those above 60 years old. never the less I contacted her neurological surgeon for his opinion and was reassured that A. The incidence after the covid vaccinations were still in line with normal incidence in the population and B. that her previous history would not make her any more susceptible of a further bleed or clot.

It is natural to have concerns but a lot of this is down to E.U. scaremongering.
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PS perhaps I should not mention this but one of the immediate side-effects reported was pregnancy following vaccination!!
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« Reply #212 on: Wednesday 31 March 21 18:16 BST (UK) »
And in this particular situation - I have had the Pfizer, and OH has had the A-Z.  We are both awaiting our second appointments.

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Re: Vaccination priority groups
« Reply #213 on: Wednesday 31 March 21 19:36 BST (UK) »
Same as you BumbleB on both counts.

The scaremongering regarding the AZ jag or any of the others does not concern us at all. Our chances of getting Covid-19 are far greater than us getting a blood clot accountable to the vaccine.

By the way Guy I had better not get pregnant as a result of having my vaccination as we couldn't cope with a baby at our ages  ??? ???

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« Reply #214 on: Wednesday 31 March 21 19:42 BST (UK) »

The scaremongering regarding the AZ jag or any of the others does not concern us at all. Our chances of getting Covid-19 are far greater than us getting a blood clot accountable to the vaccine.

Dorrie

I did say i was concerned about the effect on my children - which actually might be greater than them contracting covid themselves as fit 30 year olds.

It really doesn't bother me as I am currently taking blood thinning tablets so very unlikely to get a clot.

Why it is termed scaremongering I don't know - it is simply the reporting of data.

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Re: Vaccination priority groups
« Reply #215 on: Wednesday 31 March 21 20:08 BST (UK) »


Why it is termed scaremongering I don't know - it is simply the reporting of data.

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It's the way it is reported that is scaremongering - some people just read the headlines and assume the risk is far higher than than it is. A bit of research quickly shows that compared to the chance of getting a clot naturally or through taking other medication, air travel etc it is no worse. 
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