SHARPE/SHARP THOMAS BORN 1809-1811

[wentworth13]

Thomas Sharpe born 1809-1811 married Jane Lloyd in 1832 St Peter's Liverpool. They had seven children. Jane died 1849 plus three children Robert Jane and Richard. All buried Wesley Chapel Upper Stanhope St Liverpool.
On 1841 census there is a Mary but she does not appear on 1851 census. Cannot find her death
On 1851 census there is Ann aged 5 years with Thomas her brother who lives and Richard who Dies.
Thomas senior is a widower which is correct.
I cannot find Either Thomas  senior or Ann on the 1861 census so am assuming they have died.
I ordered one cert but that is not correct for Thomas. There is a death in 1865 but if that is him
why is he not on 1861 census. I would be grateful for any help as I seem to be going round in circles.
The only remaining children from the marriage was John born 1833 and Thomas born 1836 which is the line I am following. Thanks

[garstonite]

Baptism: 27 Jun 1836 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Thomas Sharp - [Child] of Thomas Sharp & Jane
    Abode: Blundell Street
    Occupation: Black Smith
    Baptised by: William Tyrer Off. Minister
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Blowick and Churchtown are just outside Liverpool on the road to Southport - is this a possible ?

Baptism: 9 Sep 1810 St Cuthbert, Churchtown, Lancashire, England
Thos. Sharp - Son of Jno. Sharp & Alice
    Born: 31 Aug 1810
    Abode: Blowick
    Register: Baptisms 1791 - 1812, Page 91

[garstonite]

to look for the 7 childrens marriages - I know 3 died - we need Thomas occupation - do you know it ?

for example - is this the son John ??
Marriage: 27 Jan 1853 St Thomas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
John Sharpe - 24, Servant, Bachelor, 20 Egerton Street
Maria Pester - 21, Spinster, 3 Morpeth Street
    Groom's Father: Thomas Sharpe, Attorney's Clerk
    Bride's Father: John Pester, Labourer
    Witness: Thomas Walton; M. A. Walton

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or is this one ?

Marriage: 12 Jul 1858 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Thomas Sharp - (X), minor, Millwright, Bachelor, Henry St.
Mary Jagger - (X), minor, Spinster, Henry St.
    Groom's Father: Thomas Sharp, Cabinet Maker
    Bride's Father: John Jagger, Tailor
    Witness: Thomas Manifold, (X); Martha Lee, (X)
    Married by Banns by: J. Wm. Welsh, Curate

[trish1120]

1832 Marriage has Thomas as a Labourer (FreeREG)

1851 Census Mary and John Sharpe age 18 and 10 are with their Aunt/Uncle John/Mary Graham
Mary married John Graham 1842 (image on Anc, name mistranscribed as Mary Ann HOGH)
Image is LLLOYD, her Father William a Cooper.

1861 with the Grahams is Thomas Sharp 1837 Liverpool, Wife and 2 children.
Down as a Cousin. Occp Dock Labourer

[trish1120]

RICHARD Sharp death 18 Jun 1851 Liverpool, Parents THOMAS/JANE

[wentworth13]

The Thomas born 1809 married Jane Lloyd 1832.
Cannot find his death.

The Thomas that married Mary Jagger is  the son of Thomas and Jane Lloyd, I have all of his details.

I will check the census again. But I am only looking for the death of Thomas Sharp born 1809-1811.
Thanks for the help. I will be shutting down as I am in Australia and it is late.

[wentworth13]

Thanks for help was much appreciated.  I have noticed on the 1861 census that I cannot find Thomas born 1809 and his son John born 1833.  This I think is the clue to what has happened to Thomas as John married a Jane in late 1861 after the census. And the death cert says that the person with him
at death was a Grace Southward. That person is John's motherinlaw, So perhaps there is a transcribing error. I only have family search and FindMyPast. The death cert said he was living at Camden St Bootle. I will try and play around with the Sharp name and see what I can find.  Thanks again for your help and suggestions.