Samuel Sawyer - b. 1739 Shoreditch (burial 16th Dec 1827]

[jonwarrn]

The St Luke image on FamilySearch
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSF7-RST1-7

Father might be Robert?
As far as I can tell, they have offered no transcription for the entry. The one above they have as George Jackson, son of Timothy and Ann, 19 Aug 1739.

[sawyerhja]

That's very interesting - the FS image is clearer than the one on LMA, who I have asked to take a closer look at. His father does look like Robert - not what I expected. So, either I have been making wrong assumptions or, more likely, his baptism record lies somewhere else. I have trawled through most of the church records in Tower Hamlets, Islington and Hackney but haven't spotted a likely father.

[rosie99]

I have had a quick look at your tree it is certainly well documented, I see that Samuels occupation was a weaver and that he was married to Ann/e.  I cannot see a marriage on there or evidence of his year of birth, was his age mentioned when he died or have you located it elsewhere. 

Got to go out but will be back soon

[jonwarrn]

If he could have been a bit older, a baptism at St Olave Southwark, 24 March 1733/4
Transcribed as Samvel Sawer
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J393-QF4

Image here, it may be Sawer (but I'm not certain!)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSFX-6SZF-V

[jonwarrn]

Unless that is the father's occupation! They seem to be giving them. In which case, what is the surname?

[Lily M]

I see that his burial record gives his year of birth as 1739.  But this would make him just 14 years old when his son was born.  Possible, I know, but is this very likely?

[sawyerhja]

Thank you to all contributors. Useful stuff. It has been hard to tie down his place of baptism and indeed, my name Sawyer was an occupation itself; confusing. His burial date of 1827 may be wrong, as its calculated birth year of 1739 leads us nowhere in particular. Equally, there are Land Tax Records 2 and 4 years AFTER his death year of 1827. The more we dig, the less we can pin down!

[rosie99]

While I was looking for a marriage I saw the mention of Elizabeth Leech - the Samuel Sawyer that married her in 1780 was supposedly a Bachelor. 

It would be good to locate your Samuels marriage to Ann. 

[sawyerhja]

No one has found a record for a marriage prior to Eliz. Leech. He could have been a bachelor or, as happened with another of my forebears, he lied, being a bigamist or whatever. Yes, if only we could find a marriage to Ann Hannah.
Btw, which link do you usually use for FS? I have three - there may be better ones?

https://www.familysearch.org/search/family-trees/
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/igi
https://www.familysearch.org/search/hr/search