William J. McKay - Glenarm Antrim - Deadend advice needed

[aghadowey]

One thing that bothers me is why William/John McKay gave his cousin Miss Sarah Kelly as next of kin in military records. I wonder if it was because he was staying with her or that his parents were deceased.

In any case, here's a William McKay, farmer, Glenarm, who died 1880- daughter Jane (is she the Miss Jane McKay in previous post?)-
Letters of Administration of the personal estate of William M'Kay late of Glenarm County Antrim Farmer deceased who died 19 July 1880 at same place were granted at Belfast to Jane M'Kay of Glenarm Spinster a Child of said deceased. Effects under £200. (note: unadministered means he left no Will)
Death shows he was age 68 (so born c1812) and a widower so the informant, Jane McKay, is likely the daughter mentioned in Will extract.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1880/06470/4861110.pdf

[GeneCat]

Ahhh you have both been very busy. Just got the PC started up and looking through it all now. This is all looking VERY promising. I can't thank you enough for the help Scotmum and Aghadowey.

Fantastic new avenue of reseach with Mary McKay's marriage and William Mckay's death.

Just looking at your comment about the different religions. I had to go look that up. I had never heard of Non-subscribing Presbyterians before today. Unfortunately the three links (the ones for Jane McKay 1901 1911 and Huge 1911) wont work for me and I get an error page. The religions are interesting indeed.

Did he keep to a consistent version on the various birth records of his children?

  This I don't know. I have no baptism records for the one son I know of. No birth certificate either.

I talked to the lady in question this morning after reading the posts here. She said it was always known her granddad was William John and not just John even though he had dropped the William part on some documents. I mentioned the Jane Boyd from ancestry tree and get this, his son's FULL name was James Henry Boyd McKay b.1915. There's that Boyd turning up that you mentioned earlier. 

Ok still reading back and forth trying to make sense of all your finds. Thank you once again and sorry if I missed out anything in reply. 

[aghadowey]

Still working at this and I may have found William/John's father William, his father and other relatives in records but will take be a while to check and double check everything.

[aghadowey]

Try the census links again- hopefully they will work now 

[GeneCat]

Still working at this and I may have found William/John's father William, his father and other relatives in records but will take be a while to check and double check everything.

Oh goodness , Thank you for all your efforts. I'm just downloading the other stuff at the moment and renaming etc and checking through again.

[scotmum]

Potential red herring, but posting because of surnames/location/timescale, in case they fit in somewhere down the line:

Marriage
29 Oct 1854
Glenarm

Patrick McKay son of a Daniel
to
Mary Boyd daughter of an Abraham

[GeneCat]

Potential red herring, but posting because of surnames/location/timescale, in case they fit in somewhere down the line:

Marriage
29 Oct 1854
Glenarm

Patrick McKay son of a Daniel
to
Mary Boyd daughter of an Abraham

Tis the way the mop flops at times eh LOL.  I have been saving all the links/documents and jotting it all down. Thank you. Already have a lot of new stuff to go on thanks to you.

[aghadowey]

Still haven't been able to prove parentage of William/John McKay (other than marriage gives father's name) but have constucted a lovely tree for a McKay family which hopefully will be of use.

Firstly-
Reply #23-
Patrick McKay marriage- https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1854/09472/5432567.pdf
Groom’s residence Longfall (a clachan in the townland of Dickey’s Town
https://www.townlands.ie/antrim/glenarm-lower/tickmacrevan/dickeys-town/
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Glenarm/Dickeystown/993720/  (family are R.C.)
https://antrimhistory.net/clachan-project/glenarm/longfall/

Reply #13-
I believe the McKays of Doonan, Deerpark & Bellaire can also be set aside at the moment.

[aghadowey]

Using fragments of 1851 census that survive for the area, later census records (1901 & 1911), vital records, Will extracts & newspaper extracts here's an incomplete tree (I didn't follow up all younger generation).

Daniel McKay (c1782-23 June 1868), farmer, m. Nancy (c1783-1851/1868)
http://www.searchforancestors.com/locality/ireland/census1851/tickmacrevan.html
9 Glenarm Tobermore St Townland, Tickmacrevan County Antrim (1851)
Daniel Mckay, Head, Married 65, Farmer, County Antrim Married
Nancy Mckay, Wife, Married 68, None, County Antrim Married
Alexander Mckay, Son, Unmarried, 31, Farmer, County Antrim Married
Letters of Administration of the personal estate of Daniel M'Kay late of Glenarm County Antrim Yeoman a Widower deceased who died 23 June 1868 at same place were granted at Belfast to William M'Kay of Glenarm aforesaid the Son and only next of kin of said deceased. Effects under £200
Note: Daniel was a widower and only n.o.k. was son William as son Alexander had died previous year.

Son Alexander McKay (c1820-1867), innkeeper, m. Isabella
The Will of Alexander M'Kay late of Glenarm County Antrim Innkeeper deceased who died 2 July 1867 at same place was proved at Belfast by the oaths of James Lusk (Saddler) and John Cobain (Grocer) both of Glenarm aforesaid two of the Executors. Effects under £3,000. Will dated 29 June 1867 mentions brother William, wife Isabella, niece Susan McKay, nephew Daniel McKay, father Daniel, nieces- Jenny, Nancy, Eliza, Mary, Margaret,
Belfast Newsletter, 12 Aug.1867:  The Executors of the late Alexander M'Kay will Sell by Public AUCTION, at the ANTRIM ARMS HOTEL, Glenarm, on TUESDAY, the 20th of August inst., and following days …
1861 Belfast Directory- Glenarm:  https://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/PT_EGHKpage601.htm - GLENARM- McCay, Charles, Antrim Arms Hotel. McKay, Alexander, Commercial Hotel. McKay, John, spirit dealer. 1877 directory- Commercial Hotel not listed
Note: marriage to Isabella mentioned in his Will not found (perhaps pre-1845); the nephew & nieces mentions in Will are children of William.