Baptism Lookup Request - John STRANGE, Northall, Bedfordshire, c 1812

[jkgla]

I wonder if anyone could help track down JOHN STRANGE who was born in Northall, Bedfordshire about 1812 (date from censuses)

He married Martha Tarbox 20 Oct 1832 at North Church, Hertford

He is NOT the John Strange who married Mary Fowler at Toddington in 1811 - she is my G3 grandmother and the family are well documented.
Any help appreciated, thank you

jkgla

[tazzie]

Not John but possible sibling..

 Stoney Strange bapt Edlesborough   21st Nov 1801 father Thomas mother Ann.

 On 1851 census he states born in Northall.

 Mary bapt 1793  Alice 1797.

 Tazzie

[jkgla]

Many thanks for this, Tazzie.

Thank you for your trouble.

[rootychatterbox]

Hi jkgla,

John Strange married Martha Tarbox and I think I have their wedding certificate. Their daughter was Ann who married George Brooks. Their grandson was Jack Brooks who was my wife's grandfather.

I don't think I have much more on John Strange himself other than on Rootspoint which shows his birth in 1791.

Hope that helps.

Dave.

[jkgla]

That is really interesting, thank you.
I wonder if your wife and I share any DNA - though the connection is a long way back.  I’d be interested in the details of John Strange/Martha Tarbox marriage - mainly because there are *so many* John Stranges (& Elizabeth Stranges)’ that identifying them is a nightmare. A generation or so further back, a John Strange m an Elizabeth & their son John married another Elizabeth - I have a copy of the rather confusing will describing matters.
Thank you..
Checking - the marriage took place at North Church, Hertford, 20 Oct 1832 - but do you have any further details please?

[rootychatterbox]

Hi, yes I will look into this and reply. Might be a day or two.
Dave.

[rootychatterbox]

Hi,

My wife has a purse that was owned by Martha Strange (Tarbox). In that there is her wedding certificate. John Strange (bachelor) and Martha Tarbox (spinster) were married on Oct 20 1832 in Hertford. The witnesses were John and Clara Tarbox. None of them signed their names, just giving their mark (X). Their ages are not given and neither is their residence, profession or parental detail.

We are also lucky enough to have access to the Strange family bible. This shows the dates of birth of the children of John and Marta Strange (according to my wife's uncle, all in Berkhampstead, it would appear):

George (1 Apr 1834)
William (4 Mar 1837)
Matthew (11 Feb 1839)
Ann (30 Apr 1842)
Emma (24 Aug 1844)
James (13 Apr 1847)
Ephraim (14 Sep 1848)
Catherine (10 Oct 1851)

Now, the bible also shows the birth dates of the previous Strange generation, so this is John Strange, plus all his siblings:

John (2 Jun 1811) - note this is 1811, not 1812 as your census suggests
George (21 Mar 1813)
James (16 Apr 1819)
Thomas (28 Jul 1822)
Sarah (21 Jan 1824)
Ann (8 Jan 1827)
Charles (11 Dec ?)

I don't have firm information about John's father but it seems likely that he may also have been named John, born in 1791 (residing in Toddington according to the 1841 census). Again, this could be a red herring, as you have pointed out.

Being as John and Martha seemingly inherited the bible from John's father, there is also a record of the dates of birth of Martha Tarbox and her siblings:

George (27 Apr 1801)
Clarah (1 Sep 1803)
Matthew (13 Feb 1805)
Richard (25 Mar 1807)
Martha (26 Dec 1809)
John (10 Mar 1812)

From research carried out by my wife's uncle, it would appear that the Tarbox childrens' parents were George Tarbox and Catherine Emmerton (who were married in the year 1800 at Great Gaddesden).

I think that is probably about it. If you have any information germane to this side of the family tree and where you fit in, then do please share.

Happy hunting, Dave.

[jkgla]

Hi David,
Many thanks for this.  You are so lucky to have a family bible. There was a family bible on my father's side of the family, but the siblings burnt it when my grandmother died 'because it contained so many names!' How many times have I wept over this - especially since my father's family has a lot of Smiths!.  My great grandmother was Frances Louisa Strange , daughter of John Strange of Toddington, Bedfordshire, and his wife, Mary Fowler.
I need time to have a good look at your tree, and we are very busy for the next couple of weeks, but I wil reply when I've digested your information.
Thank you so much for sharimg these details - it is much appreciated.
Best wishes, Joan

[rootychatterbox]

Hi Joan,

Wondered if you had got any further with this?

I am not sure of the link between our trees. The Hertfordshire John Strange/Martha Tarbox marriage certificate I have does not have mother and father's names (it is an official copy so maybe the original has it).

But we do know that John was born (1811) in Northall, Bedfordshire, yet the only similar baptism is 1813 in Hertfordshire, where his parents appear to be shown as Strange/Fowler. Having two years between birth and baptism seems unusual.

So, I am not convinced it is the same John Strange. Maybe one day I will visit the Hertfordshire records office and get to the truth!

Regards,

Dave.