Thomas loftus & Mary Egan Bonniconlon

[heywood]

That’s partly why I asked if our information was helpful, Maiden Stone.
There are various Loftus threads by babykate and not all seem to link with each other.
As there has been little/no feedback, I wondered if our replies were helpful in sifting out the right Loftuses.

[Maiden Stone]

Heywood, my ancestor was Thomas Loftus with wife Mary + children with the same names as some of the children of Thomas Loftus & Mary Egan.

[babykate]

So Thomas Loftus Snr married Mary Egan in1870 in sligo.

They had 10 children 8 living - one of which was Thomas Loftus who married Philomena Robbins 29 Aug 1923 inTullamore or kilkenny. It is this Thomas who died in 1958 who is listed as being army pensioner . . . . .

I did find an army record for RD Fusilers May 1916 reg no. 26983 but not sure if it is him - he did have a brother Patrick but as I say there was another Thomas Loftus . . . . So I don’t want to mix them up.
The other Thomas Loftus is mentioned in the below site

https://www.mayo-ireland.ie/en/towns-villages/bonniconlon/history/thomas-loftus-irish-volunteer.html


But this is my Thomas Loftus in 1901 and 1911 census

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Mayo/Kilgarvin/Bunnyconnellan_West/700547/

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Mayo/Kilgarvan/Bunnyconnellan/1572628/

Hope this helps clarify 

[babykate]

This is the “other” Thomas

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Mayo/Kilgarvan/Rathreedaun/1572912/

John and Bridget being parents but also has a brother Pat /  Patrick

So I’m not sure which one the RD Fusilier record belongs to . . . .

[heywood]

The Thomas Loftus who was in the Royal Dublin Fusiliers is this one that you gave earlier
On at least one of his papers, Patrick is used and crossed through which may be indicated below.

‘26983 Private Patrick/Thomas Loftus, Medal Card gives enlisted 15 May 1916, discharged sick on 30 May 1918’
From
https://www.dublin-fusiliers.com/other-ranks/26000s/26000s.html
He is shown as 26 yrs in 1916.

The Volunteer that you mentioned, joined during the period when the one above was in the RDF.

[babykate]

Entry for my Thomas Jnr birth
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1914/01392/1572433.pdf

Would have made him 30 and not 24 in 1916 as per RD Fusiliers - so maybe not him after all?

[heywood]

He is 26 in the army records but sometimes these records are not always correct.
Your Thomas has an older brother Patrick who would likely be next of kin.

The other Thomas is younger.

I don’t know apart from this.

[dathai]

I think the best thing you could do is get one or two of his children's birth cert's to see what his occupation is,you may find he joined the Free State army after 1923 when hostilities had ceased or i wonder what is the significance of his birth being registered in Oct 1914 just after the start of WW1.

By the way his brother in law John Sean or Seagan Robbins a Sinn Feiner did many stint's in prison from 1919 to 1924 for both the British and Free State, see military pensions.

his marriage 1920
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1921/09219/5335441.pdf

[heywood]

Interesting