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Re: Where is Amelia Whitehead nee Pedgrift after 1851
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 19 December 20 22:33 GMT (UK) »
Thanks again Milliepede. - That’s an interesting find - at the moment no obvious 1871/81 entry for her which makes me wonder.  Joseph only died 1899 but will do some more digging & get back to you
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Re: Where is Amelia Whitehead nee Pedgrift after 1851
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 20 December 20 02:48 GMT (UK) »
Still looking  ...

However, these may be of interest to your friend re Joseph WHITEHEAD:

"QUEEN-SQUARE.- George Edwards, a well-dressed young man, was yesterday placed at the bar, charged with stealing four or five umbrellas from the robing-room of the Court of Queen's Bench.
   Joseph Whitehead, a waiter, stated that at half-past four that afternoon he saw the defendant go to the umbrella-stand and help himself to several, which he was proceeding towards the stairs with, when witness stopped him and gave him into custody.
   Prisoner declared he did not mean to take them. He was merely looking for his own.
   He was remanded until this day (Saturday)."
Morning Post,    Saturday,  Dec. 11, 1841

"James Whitehead, a waiter at the Belgrave Mansions Company, Grosvenor-gardens, was charged with stealing a bottle of sherry, value 3s., the goods of Mr. Alexander McKinnon, a gentleman residing in the mansions.
   Mr. Charles States, the manager of the company, said the defendant had been in the service of the company four months. Last Sauturday, from information he received, he saw the bottle of sherry in the pantry cupboard belonging to the prisoner, and taxed him with the theft. The prisoner was then asked whether it was McKinnon's sherry, and he said "Yes;" and then upon the waiter who had informed against him, being confronted with him, he said "It was a 'plant,' and had been put there by someone else." Witness then asked him how that could be when he had acknowledged the sherry to be his. Mr. McKinnon offered him to leave the house in five minutes or be given into custody.
   Charles Hussey, the fellow-waiter of the defendant, proved that he opened a fresh case of sherry, and one of the bottles was missed. This bottle he saw the prisoner put into the cupboard.
   Mr. States wished to recommend the prisoner to mercy on account of his wife and family. His offence was attributable to drink.
   He was remanded to this day week."
Morning Post,  Tuesday,  Feb. 18, 1873

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Re: Where is Amelia Whitehead nee Pedgrift after 1851
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 20 December 20 11:20 GMT (UK) »
That's brilliant Maddy.  In 1851 Joseph's occ was "waiter in robing room" and just "waiter" in 1861/71. 

Not sure about the connection to James Whitehead though.  Joseph's oldest son was only b 1861 and was also Joseph

My friend reckons Joseph must have buried Amelia under the patio ;D
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Re: Where is Amelia Whitehead nee Pedgrift after 1851
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 20 December 20 15:52 GMT (UK) »
Do you think the second report that says James really meant to say Joseph?

What address was Joseph at in 1871 to see if it could have been him?
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Re: Where is Amelia Whitehead nee Pedgrift after 1851
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 20 December 20 20:37 GMT (UK) »
Yes, I wondered if "James" was really "Joseph" given the similarity of occupations.

The first case in 1841 can be found in Old Bailey Online
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which says Joseph worked at Howard's coffee rooms, at the Queen's Bench, at Westminster.

 

What address was Joseph at in 1871 to see if it could have been him?

Joseph and Elizabeth and children are at 16 Park Rd, Lambeth (say they are both married, which is different to the 1881 where he says he is a widow and she uses WHITCOMBE and is unmarried ).

Very intriguing bunch!  :)



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Re: Where is Amelia Whitehead nee Pedgrift after 1851
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 20 December 20 23:56 GMT (UK) »
I am sorry but I am going to have to leave this thread for the time being as my brother died earlier tonight.   
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Re: Where is Amelia Whitehead nee Pedgrift after 1851
« Reply #15 on: Monday 21 December 20 01:36 GMT (UK) »
Oh Carole, I am so sorry to hear that. Sincere condolences.

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Re: Where is Amelia Whitehead nee Pedgrift after 1851
« Reply #16 on: Monday 21 December 20 08:19 GMT (UK) »
I think I was wrong. Initially couldn't find a James WHITEHEAD who was a waiter in the 1871, but have found one now with wife Ann and son James at Poplar. So it may be him referred to in the sherry case.  :-[

Will keep looking for Amelia.

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Re: Where is Amelia Whitehead nee Pedgrift after 1851
« Reply #17 on: Monday 21 December 20 09:20 GMT (UK) »
So very sorry Carole.  Take care of yourself.
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