Looking for Cornelius Coffee (Coffey) Husbandman who died before December 1866

[condesa]

HI
I'm looking for Cornelius Coffee but have no idea which part of Ireland he may have lived in.  I would also like to find his son, Michael's, birth record and any other family.

Cornelius's son, Michael Coffee (born approx 1842) left Ireland to work at the Tredegar Ironworks in Sirhowy, near Tredegar, South Wales.  In December 1866 Michael married Honora Murphy in the Catholic church at Dukestown.  His father was Cornelius Coffee, deceased, a Husbandman.  Honora's father was Thomas Murphy, also a deceased Husbandman.

Thomas died in Wales after the 1851 census but before 1866.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you
Susan

[shanreagh]

The name Coffee is often spelt Coffey. 

[shanreagh]

On this site
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/
there are several Michael Coffee/y Cornelius combinations.

Do you happen to know what Michael Coffee's Mother's name was? It should be on the marriage certificate. 

it is also useful to note the names of the children of Michael & Honora Coffee as often, they would still be influenced by Irish naming patterns and if you know the children you can often work back to find the most likely father/mother combo. 
 
Name   MICHAEL COFFEY
Date of Birth   13 September 1840 (BASED ON OTHER DATE INFORMATION)
Address   CUMMEENATAGIL
Father   CORNELIUS COFFEY
Mother   MARY SULLIVAN
Further details in the record
Father Occupation   NR
Sponsor 1   DANIEL CONNELL
Sponsor 2   HELEN MURPHY
Priest   REV.D.O'SULLIVAN

Name   MARY COFFEE
Date of Birth   25 June 1848 (BASED ON OTHER DATE INFORMATION)
Address   KILLARNEY
Father   CORNELIUS COFFEE
Mother   MARY GREEN
Further details in the record
Father Occupation   NR
Sponsor 1   MICHAEL COFFEE
Sponsor 2   ANN KEAN
Priest   REV. J. POWER

On register as  3 July 1844
Name   MICHAEL COFFEE
Date of Birth   N/R N/R N/R
Address   N/R
Father   CORNELIUS COFFEE
Mother   MARY HALLAND
Further details in the record
Child Denomination   RC
Sponsor 1   EDD AMBROSE
Sponsor 2   HANORH SHEEHAN
Recorded Diocesan Area   CORK & ROSS
Recorded Parochial Area   KINALEA (TRACTON ABBEY)

As there are significant numbers of Coffee/Coffey in Co Kerry and Cork & Ross it would probably be a good idea for you to have a look on this site yourself. Happy to look if you are able to provide the names of the children (Michael & Honora) and the name of Michael Coffee's mother. 

[shanreagh]

Here is an index that might be useful depending on where your Coffees come from.

https://sites.rootsweb.com/~irlker/coffey.html

[shanreagh]

Here is a death of a Cornelius Coffee in the Civil register in 1865
Name   CORNELIUS COFFEY
Date of Death   1865
Group Registration ID   N/R
SR District/Reg Area   Caherciveen
Deceased Age at Death   80
Returns Year   1865
Returns Quarter   1
Returns Volume No   5
Returns Page No   26

Caherciveen is in Co Kerry. 

[heywood]

Do you happen to know what Michael Coffee's Mother's name was? It should be on the marriage certificate.

Mother’s names are not shown on civil certificates. It is often shown on parish records though.

You might be able to contact http://www.gwentarchives.gov.uk/

http://www.gwentarchives.gov.uk/media/41059/list-of-roman-catholic-registers.pdf

[condesa]

Thank you all for your replies.

I don't know Michael's mother's name, but his childrens' names were Mary, Thomas, Margaret, Joseph and John.  They were all born in Tredegar. 

One of the witnesses to his marriage was a Daniel Crowley.  According to the census in 1861 and 1871 a Daniel Crowley from Cork, Ireland was living in Tredegar.  This would suggest that Michael could be from Cork.

[shanreagh]

Or Daniel Crowley may just have been from Ireland and a fellow countryman. 

or may have been a relation?

see next post

[shanreagh]

On the site i mentioned before I have found a marriage on 10/5/1831 between Cornelius Coffee and Mary Crowley at RC Church at CARRIGALINE & TEMPLEBRIGID Co Cork. 

The witnesses were John Murphy (for husband) and Margaret Crowley (for wife)

Then children 18/4//1832 Cornelius (sponsors John Crowley and Ellen Collins) and Norry 12/2/1834 (sponsors Michael Crowley and Mary Gerald) both baptised at Tracton Abbey and Ellen Coffee 5/10/1842 also at Tracton Abbey.  The sponsors were John (Johannes) and Mary Foot. 

There was another Cornelius Coffee and Mary (Holland) with family being born at that time John Coffee 7/11/1841 and

Michael 3/7/1844 and baptised at Tracton Abbey
NB the 1871 Census has Michael Coffee (with Honorah) born about 1845 so this birth could possibly fit.