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Louisa SOUTHALL of Dudley marriages 1849 and 1856
« on: Tuesday 15 December 20 14:42 GMT (UK) »
Does anyone have access to marriage information for Dudley and/or Sedgley. My lady of interest is Louisa SOUTHALL but I'd like to know which marriage is hers. So, I'm interested in the details from the marriages such as the age of the bride, her father's name and occupation plus addresses etc. This will help determine which marriage is for my Louisa.

The husband for the 1849 marriage is Enoch BOURN. Familysearch has this marriage as 7 May 1849 at Sedgley (All Saints according to West Midlands BMD) but FreeBMD has the marriage at Dudley so I'm a bit confused as to county. Bride's father's name was  William. The other marriage was to Joseph WEBB in the Dec quarter 1856 at Dudley according to FreeBMD (St Andrew according to West Midlands BMD).

I'd be grateful for any help.
Thanks, Irene

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Re: Louisa SOUTHALL of Dudley marriages 1849 and 1856
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 15 December 20 14:56 GMT (UK) »
The second is on https://www.freereg.org.uk

Louisa SOUTHALL to Joseph WEBB   Marriage   20 Dec 1856   Worcestershire   Dudley : St Andre

No W on the transcript.

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Re: Louisa SOUTHALL of Dudley marriages 1849 and 1856
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 15 December 20 15:00 GMT (UK) »
The first also on freereg, details on both

Louisa SOUTHALL to Enoch BOURN   Marriage   07 May 1849   Staffordshire Sedgley : All Saints

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Re: Louisa SOUTHALL of Dudley marriages 1849 and 1856
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 15 December 20 15:11 GMT (UK) »
Thanks so much Colin. I can't believe I missed this one. I have been searching a lot on FreeREG for Worcestershire church records and so far found nothing relevant. I must have missed checking it for this one. It's looking good that this is the one I want. I'm very pleased with this - thanks again.
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Re: Louisa SOUTHALL of Dudley marriages 1849 and 1856
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 15 December 20 15:19 GMT (UK) »
I'm afraid the plot thickens!

Enoch a Tailor & Louisa, children  Dudley : St Thomas :

Joseph BOURNE Baptism 13 Apr 1853

THEN

Enoch a Tailor & Mary Ann - Dudley : St Thomas

Maria BOURNE   Born 28 Nov 1856   Baptism  4 Oct 1857

No death record for Louisa?

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Re: Louisa SOUTHALL of Dudley marriages 1849 and 1856
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 15 December 20 15:22 GMT (UK) »
Checked FreeREG for the Staffs marriage too. It's there and the bride's father is William SOUTHALL a glass blower in both cases. So now I'm still not sure which is the right one. But I've got the information I asked for. And I'm very grateful.
Topic is COMPLETED. Thanks.
(Louisa Bourne dies in 1853 and Enoch remarries so later children are not hers. Louisa and Joseph WEBB have a lot of children. Not sure I'm further forward yet but will work some more now that I have more info. Thanks Colin.

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Re: Louisa SOUTHALL of Dudley marriages 1849 and 1856
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 15 December 20 15:34 GMT (UK) »
And then this turns up on family search.
   
Mary Ann Bourn born Nov 1854 baptism 10 Aug 1856

Saint Thomas's Church, Dudley, Worcestershire.

Enoch Bourn & Louisa.

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Re: Louisa SOUTHALL of Dudley marriages 1849 and 1856
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 15 December 20 16:17 GMT (UK) »
Well, now I can't just find where I saw Louisa's death but Enoch and his new wife Mary Ann Cross are on the 1861 census with (apparently) her daughter Mary Alice Cross aged 6. They married in the March Quarter of 1856 in Stourbridge. None of these places are in my patch and so I'm not familiar with the significance of the registration districts versus the actual place of marriage. So I might have Louisa's death date out a bit but she's gone by 1861 and no chance to name children with significant family names - not that there were any. There are 4 generations of William Southalls just to make things harder.
Unless we have a bit of bigamy going on here - surely not! Could the 2 marriages be for the same Louisa Southall with the same glassblower father William. I'm clutching at straws. I need to lie down in a quiet place and think some more.
Thanks very much Colin - I'll keep on with this one.
Regards, Irene

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Re: Louisa SOUTHALL of Dudley marriages 1849 and 1856
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 16 December 20 10:51 GMT (UK) »
I saw the death on Louisa, I discounted it because of the location and the 1856 baptism, below.

Deaths Mar 1853   
Bourne    Louisa        Stourbridge    6c   92


Mary Ann Bourn born Nov 1854 baptism 10 Aug 1856

(Freereg notes same details but surname BROWN)

Saint Thomas's Church, Dudley, Worcestershire.

Enoch Bourn a Tailor & Louisa.

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