James Low Rae b. Arbroath 1872

[rosie17]

Agree Forfarian. Wrong information on trees 

[MaureeninNY]

Dont think this James Low Rae  is connected to this family 
Going by the birth for Jemima Rae at 9,Gaitside Street the census records all point to James Rae and Agnes Landells

Rosie

Yes.....very distinct families re: professions,etc.

Maureen

[Forfarian]

I remain confused.

I cannot tell from the information on this thread whether Tickettyboo's great-grandmother was the Jemima Rae born in Glasgow in 1893, or the Jemima Rae born in Dundee in 1895.

Or to put it another way, why does he think she was the 1893 Glasgow one rather than the Dundee one?

There's a marriage of Jemima A M Rae to Charles W Stratford in Northampton in 1920. Also the 1939 register lists in Northampton a Jemima Stratford, born 27 November 1895. If that's Tickettyboo's great grandmother, then the one born in Glasgow is the wrong one, and he is right to be looking for James Low or Rae, born 1872 in Arbroath.

[rosie17]

Now you have me confused  From Ticketty Boo's  post he mentions Agnes Landells and James Rae ..Maybe if Ticketty Boo can confirm who Jemima Rae married it would help ..Looking at the tree with several wrong information they have her married to a John Downie Marshall
SP has a marriage 1915 Camlachie Jemima Rae .John Downie Marshall
Which I would think this is the Jemima Rae born in Glasgow 
Rosie

[Forfarian]

Now you have me confused  From Ticketty Boo's  post he mentions Agnes Landells and James Rae ..Maybe if Ticketty Boo can confirm who Jemima Rae married it would help ..Looking at the tree with several wrong information they have her married to a John Downie Marshall
SP has a marriage 1915 Camlachie Jemima Rae .John Downie Marshall
Which I would think this is the Jemima Rae born in Glasgow 

Very likely.

But we are at risk of going round in circles - on the one hand it must be the Glasgow one because her mother's names is Agnes Landells, but on the other hand it must be the Dundee one because her father was born in Arbroath in 1872. But it can't be both so one of the pieces of information in the initial post must be wrong.

Please spill the beans, Ticketyboo - was your great-grandmother Mrs Marshall or Mrs Stratford? (Or indeed a Mrs something else whom we have all overlooked!)

[Annette7]

Ticketyboo say 'their' Jemima born 1893, dau. of James Rae and Agnes Landells.

As has been stated this couple married 14/7/1882 (not 1899).  His parents given as James Rae, Engine Keeper (dec'd) and Mary Somerville Rae, nee Barrie.

This James was b.25/6/1857 High Church, Glasgow, son of James Rae and Mary Barry.

For whatever reason, James and wife Mary did not marry until 14/8/1875, he aged 56 and she aged 51 - her name given as Mary Joseph Somerville nee Barry.   Both were single so no reason why they hadn't married before - they had 5 children (at least) between 1846-1857.   However, marrying late means you have the details of their respective parents which wouldn't have been stated if they'd married in mid 1840's when first child born i.e. James Rae son of William Rae, grocer (master), deceased and Mary Rae, nee Nelson (deceased) and wife Mary dau. of James Barry (deceased) and Mary Barry, nee Stevenson (deceased).

For sure, the Jemima born 1893 is dau.of plain James Rae and Agnes Landells.   Her father James Rae was born 25/6/1857 Glasgow and therefore not as given in heading of this thread.

Annette

[ev]

For whatever reason, James and wife Mary did not marry until 14/8/1875

Looks like James died the next year-
James Rae , age 57 , death 1876 , Camlachie Lanark , mother's maiden surname Nelson.

ev

[Forfarian]

Ticketyboo say 'their' Jemima born 1893, dau. of James Rae and Agnes Landells.

Yes, but (s)he also said that Jemima was the daughter of James Low Rae whose mother was Jessie, and she can't be both Jessie's granddaughter and Agnes' daughter, so we need her/him to tell us whether his/her great-grandmother Jemima was Mrs Stratford or Mrs Marshall. Otherwise we may find ourselves climbing the wrong tree.

[Annette7]

In 2016 Ticketyboo said their grandfather was William Marshall born 25/11/1915, only child of John Marshall and Jemima Rae.

John Downie Marshall married Jemima Rae 26/2/1915 Glasgow and marriage details confirm that Jemima Rae was the daughter of James Rae, Engine Keeper and Agnes Rae, nee Landells.

So, Jemima was indeed the one born 1893 and her parents did indeed marry 1882 (and not 1899).

Ticketyboo clearly misled by the incorrect trees on Ancestry.   

Jemima's father was plain James Rae born 25/6/1857 Glasgow and her mother Agnes Landells was born 23/11/1856 Airdrie (dau. of Joseph Landells and Agnes nee Hogg, married 31/12/1855).

Annette