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Re: Looking for information on Caroline Fox emigrated to USA from England in 1913
« Reply #45 on: Monday 14 December 20 19:46 GMT (UK) »
Good evening all 7:30 pm GMT
Thank You All So So much or all your hard work in finding Caroline Fox and subsequently her daughter Ellen Bessie and her family.
I suspect Ellen wasn't actually married to Randolph Divett but he would have been the father of some of her children.
Ellen was divorced from Mr Johnson before any of her children were born even though the were registered as Johnson in England.
Lets say Ellen Bessie Fox was no angel!

Ellen Bessie was back in the Uk for the 1939 registration (WW2 Identity cards) but needless to say, at this point i have not been able to find her death -maybe i should search with the surname Divett! Also on this record she is with a daughter born in 1915 which is the time that she would have been in the USA
Zena Muriel Barnham Johnson bn 1915  ???? with no birth registration in the UK is she a Divett?

Once again Many Thanks

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Re: Looking for information on Caroline Fox emigrated to USA from England in 1913
« Reply #46 on: Monday 14 December 20 20:03 GMT (UK) »


Zena Muriel Barham Johnson -   mothers maiden name Young   
GRO Reference: 1915  M Quarter in Portsmouth  Volume 02B  Page 951

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Re: Looking for information on Caroline Fox emigrated to USA from England in 1913
« Reply #47 on: Monday 14 December 20 20:05 GMT (UK) »
Have you checked this entry ?

Ellen Johnson 1881 - 1953 (aged 72 years)
Registration Quarter:   Jan-Feb-Mar Portsmouth Hampshire
Volume 6b Page 688

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Re: Looking for information on Caroline Fox emigrated to USA from England in 1913
« Reply #48 on: Monday 14 December 20 20:11 GMT (UK) »
I did wonder if this was Kathleen Irene Brooks rather than Brooke ?  Maybe the name is coincidence ?- Kathleen Irene Brooks 4 August 1902 - January 2001 (aged 98 years)
Registration Date Jan 2001   Windsor and Maidenhead Berkshire
Register Number M38 - District and Subdistrict 3222 - Entry Number 180

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Re: Looking for information on Caroline Fox emigrated to USA from England in 1913
« Reply #49 on: Monday 14 December 20 20:27 GMT (UK) »
Have you checked this entry ?

Ellen Johnson 1881 - 1953 (aged 72 years)
Registration Quarter:   Jan-Feb-Mar Portsmouth Hampshire
Volume 6b Page 688

Sandra

Hi Sandra
Yes I checked have checked this entry against the probate calendar and this lady was listed as a spinster, and her beneficiary didn't match  :-\
Wendy
Garnett, Gatty- London
Bulbeck, Garnett- Portsmouth, Hampshire
Small, Rowe, Pearce- Hants/Wilts
Buckett- Isle Of Wight
Newland- Portsmouth, East Meon, Hayling Island, Hants
Savell/Saville/Saveal- Essex
Roberts- Rutland, London

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Re: Looking for information on Caroline Fox emigrated to USA from England in 1913
« Reply #50 on: Monday 14 December 20 20:35 GMT (UK) »
Were the parents of Zena listed on her 1940 marriage ?

Charles A Oliphant- Mark - Registration Date Apr 1940 Paddington London
Spouse Zena M Barham-Johnson
Volume Number 1 a - Page number 145

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Re: Looking for information on Caroline Fox emigrated to USA from England in 1913
« Reply #51 on: Monday 14 December 20 20:46 GMT (UK) »
Were the parents of Zena listed on her 1940 marriage ?

Charles A Oliphant- Mark - Registration Date Apr 1940 Paddington London
Spouse Zena M Barham-Johnson
Volume Number 1 a - Page number 145.

Sandra
Unfortunately our marriage indexes don't show the parents names and I have not sent for certificates as she is my 3rd cousin 3 x removed and you do have to draw the line somewhere!! ;D
Garnett, Gatty- London
Bulbeck, Garnett- Portsmouth, Hampshire
Small, Rowe, Pearce- Hants/Wilts
Buckett- Isle Of Wight
Newland- Portsmouth, East Meon, Hayling Island, Hants
Savell/Saville/Saveal- Essex
Roberts- Rutland, London

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Re: Looking for information on Caroline Fox emigrated to USA from England in 1913
« Reply #52 on: Monday 14 December 20 20:49 GMT (UK) »
I did wonder if this was Kathleen Irene Brooks rather than Brooke ?  Maybe the name is coincidence ?- Kathleen Irene Brooks 4 August 1902 - January 2001 (aged 98 years)
Registration Date Jan 2001   Windsor and Maidenhead Berkshire
Register Number M38 - District and Subdistrict 3222 - Entry Number 180

Sandra
I have this record in my tree but now I am having second thoughts due to her moving to the USA
Garnett, Gatty- London
Bulbeck, Garnett- Portsmouth, Hampshire
Small, Rowe, Pearce- Hants/Wilts
Buckett- Isle Of Wight
Newland- Portsmouth, East Meon, Hayling Island, Hants
Savell/Saville/Saveal- Essex
Roberts- Rutland, London

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Re: Looking for information on Caroline Fox emigrated to USA from England in 1913
« Reply #53 on: Tuesday 15 December 20 20:50 GMT (UK) »
I finally found Ellen & her kids on the 1911 passenger list, with Divett badly mistranscribed as Dwell.   ::)  It lists her mother as C. Fox and the 2nd page says they were going to Dubuque, Iowa to her husband at 2118 Couler Ave.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9T4-P9HL-P?i=643&cc=1368704&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AJJP8-2PN