John Edward Boshell

[jonwarrn]

Background stuff!
Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927, on ancestry
October 1873
John Boshell, born 12 June 1841, Dublin
address 97 Dorset Street, Dublin

On the SS Princess Alexandra
Crew lists
In 1870 he was saying he was 26
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cl/007604434_00437.pdf

First page
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cl/007604434_00436.pdf

His mate's certificate testimonials tells us that he was in the Royal Navy
Boshell, John
Place of Birth: Dublin, Ireland
Slightly different date of birth! In June 1843
Royal Navy Continuous Service Engagement Books
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D7883014

I think date of volunteering is actually 30 June 1861 (not 1843!)
See with image viewer or download for free

When on the Rinaldo he was sick twice in 1862
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C10554362

Birth of first son Edward John, 16 April 1875, Dublin
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1875/03103/2137917.pdf

Then there was James Edward Albert, b 13 Dec 1876, died soon after
Birth of daughter Annie, 14 February 1879
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1879/02932/2074323.pdf

His death in hospital, 3 June 1888, a widower? Age 47.
Indexed everywhere as Boskell
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1888/06178/4765959.pdf

[jonwarrn]

Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927, on ancestry
October 1873
John Boshell
address 97 Dorset Street, Dublin

Birth of first son Edward John, 16 April 1875, Dublin
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1875/03103/2137917.pdf

Born at 5 Caroline Row.
Informant Mary Ann Kelly, present at birth, 97 up Dorset Street

[kooky]

jonw65,
Thanks for all this info.
I do have some of it!
Kooky

[jonwarrn]

Ah, now we all have it!
It is quite an interesting picture.

Not to be taken too seriously, honestly but we are desperate, I just mention a plain Mary Boshell, widow, who married James Kelly, at St Thomas Dublin in 1850 (same church as JE married Susan in 1874)
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=d-80-3-3-060
John

[jonwarrn]

Marriage at St Mary Dublin, 4 Feb 1875
John Minchin Whitaker, Gentleman
+
Catherine Kelly, Spinster, 97 Upper Dorset St, father James Kelly, Gentleman
Witnessed by a Mary Kelly
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=d-277-3-12-006

A bill in 1894 to dissolve the marriage!
A bit away from James Kelly, the labourer.
I may have gone down a blind alley?

[jonwarrn]

Here are John & Catherine as witness' at a marriage of another Kelly !

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/4113f10541638

Tara

Thank you, Tara.
A link to the image
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=d-298-3-10-101

26 Dec 1876, St George Dublin
William Gerald Milligan
+
Mary Jane Kelly, Spinster, 25 Hardwick St, father James Kelly, Clerk
witnesses John Minchin Whitaker, C A Whitaker

Back to the birth reg of John Edward Boshell's second son James at 96 North Strand Road, Dublin
Registered 23 January 1877
Informant Mary Kelly, present at birth, 25 Hardwick St
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1877/03024/2108210.pdf

So there is a definite link of some kind here!

[Pennines]

Well done JonW on all you have found. So he was definitely born in 1841.

In case he wasn't born in Ireland, I have checked the British Army births, England and Wales Civil Reg - and Scotland Parish Registers. Sadly no trace of John Edward in any of those.

Irish research can be so frustrating I'm afraid.

[felixquaxer]

Kooky

While there is no entry for  a Kelly at 96 North Strand for 1877 in The Irish Times ,I notice that some years later lodgings were offered there. This could have been caused by the international economic recession of the mid 1870s.
Perhaps of greater interest to you is an entry in The Calendar of Ancient Records of Dublin Vol.14 Page 76 where a John Boshell made an unsuccessful bid for the letting of tolls and customs for 1 year from Michaelmas 1788.

Felix Quaxer

[jonwarrn]

Thanks Pennines.
Not looking so good for the Kelly - Boshell marriage, if James the father of the Kelly girls was a clerk, he would have had to have been able to write!

Any more contributions?

Susan’s death in 1882 perhaps?

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1882/06386/4833168a.pdf

Thanks, heywood.
Susan died at 6 Charlemont Parade
I wonder who the informant was? Mary Jane Kelly of the same address!
I thought she was supposed to have married William Gerald Milligan in 1876!