John (old Jock) Lamb

[Minsterworth Lad]

To all of you  - Annie, David, Biggles50 and Maiden Stone - thank you so much for your combined information and advice.

As yet, I have been unable to discover Banns or details relating to the marriage of John and Hannah's son, George, (my 3xGG) to Jane Waite, in I suspect, Penrith, in around the mid 1840s, which could throw light on his, by then, deceased parents.

The Hannah/Hanna/Anna Proud is a lead I will certainly investigate further, as is Military service. The death notice quoted has been a strong element in my past research - thank you for confirming  this. Likewise confirmation of Census rounding up/down.

I have wondered about the 1806 birth of Mary/Mary-Ann Lamb to John and Hannah, as their son, George, and wife, Jane, named their children in exactly the same order: Mary-Ann; Robert; John; George and William.  This George became my 2xGG and those very same names still figure strongly in my Mum's family.

It is also great to be joined on this search by a couple of members of the Lamb family. Love the signature photo.

Thanks to all ... best wishes ... John

[MarnieL]

Hi RootsChat Cumberland, from Australia

I set aside research into my 4xGG, JOHN LAMB, several years ago as I could discover no more - nothing seemed to yield anything significant. His son, GEORGE, migrated to Australia with his family in 1864 and died, tragically, at Dubbo, in 1868. George's brothers, Robert and John, arrived in Australia well before him, both transported. Our family knowledge of our LAMB history is quite strong from George forward. The story of those who came before George is frustratingly unclear.

Back to JOHN LAMB, or OLD JOCK, as he is referred to in the Coroner's report into his death in 1844. The 1841 Census sees him in Penrith, a Sweep, with George, a Sweep (whose age is noted but I am quite certain this is "our George"). Under the same roof is Mary Sowerby. John Lamb is about 60 and is recorded as being born "out of county"). That has been a bit of a stumbling block.

George was the son of JOHN LAMB and HANNAH (no surname). Hannah died in 1828, around the same time as her infant son, William. This is where I am lost. I can find no record of their marriage, which may, or may not, have taken place in Cumberland or Westmorland - if at all. Hannah is not Hannah Jackson, m. John Lamb at Muncaster around 1815.

The Coroner's report states that Mary Sowerby " ... sixteen years ago ... unaccountably became enamoured with Old Lamb, the Sweep, ... and became his mistress...". This may be coincidence but it meshes pretty well with the year of Hannah's death.

Does anyone have any clues or hints regarding my 4 x GG, John Lamb, or Hannah, or even Mary Sowerby prior and post John, please?  Both Ancestry and FindMyPast are offering hints on these names but none are strong enough to offer factual evidence. I have also seen a couple of Public Family Trees that offer lineage but they do not appear to have been (in my opinion) fully researched.

Thank you for reading the background to my request. I am open to being corrected as my search, to date, has long been fruitless.

All the best ... John.

Hi there,

I hope you’re well. I’m currently researching my family tree, as I have two trees with conflicting information regarding the birthplace of my great-great-great-grandfather. However, Jane Waite and George Lamb are listed in both trees I’ve received. My great-great-great-grandparents are Robert and Jane Lamb (née Powell), with George and Jane listed as Robert's parents in the BDM records, which match my great-great-grandfather's death date that I found during an online search.

I also came across a discussion about a Mary Ann in another family search forum, which discusses Jane Waite, born in 1821, as her mother. The link to this is: https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=333415.0#google_vignette

While I know exactly who my my great-great-great-grandparents are , I’m still piecing together some details. If you have any additional insights or if you'd like to discuss this further, I’d love to connect.

Thank you