Where is Alma Matthews and how does she fit into our Matthews family tree?

[Peggle]

 

Interestingly, at that same address, I found a birth record for another child who died very young...(about 5 months)
MATTHEWS Basil Ken
Birth 19 Mar 1915
At Mrs Treweeks, Mount St. Burnie
Reg. Year 1915
Reg No.1960
James Ralph Matthews
Lillian Matthews nee.Tiffen

 
 


Peg

According to my calculations of Lillian nee TIFFEN's age in 1915, she was at least 45 years.

I would be thinking this is another grandchild of theirs registered in their names as parents.

Sue

Sue,
Here is a family notice re. Kenneth Basil Matthews in the North Eastern Advocate and  Emu Bay Times dated 18 Aug 1916
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/64596416?searchTerm=Kenneth%20Basil%20Matthews%20Kenneth%20Basil

Peg

[sparrett]

Yes, well...I'm not quite sure what that verse means.

Are you?
L and D were siblings??
Sue

[Peggle]

Sue,

L is Ivy Lily, known as Lily.
D is Mary Ann Dorothy Louisa known as Dorothy.
They are the siblings of baby Kenneth Basil Matthews, youngest child of James Ralph Matthews and Lillian.

Just as a little piece of interest regarding Lillian being aged 45 when Kenneth was born......
My youngest child was born when I was 46!   

Peg
 

[cando]

Our family mystery begins with Alma Matthews.....

Alma had a child named Amy Ellen who was born Matthews on 17 Jan 1918 in Victoria, Australia.
We cannot find a birth record for Amy.

In 1919, Amy's mother Alma took her to a babies home in Broadmeadows, a suburb of Melbourne and left her there

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Peg don't you think the birth certificate I purchased and attached to my reply have solved your mystery?  You make no mention of it in any of your responses.  Just click on the link in the post.

I'ts obvious that Ivy Lily was "Alma".  Place of birth and age.

[carts]

Hi i am amy ellen grand daughter.i am try to find any infor of ivy lillians life between 1915 and 1919 when she married...when did she leave tassie  where in vic did she live..was she working ...did she leave tassie with another family member..any help on location at this time might help..

[majm]

 

I wonder if Cando's post and that wonderful attachment was overshadowed by several posts from me.  If so, please accept my apologies.   

JM

[Peggle]

ROME Ellen Amy
Father George  Mother Ivy MATTHEWS
At Carlton  1918  Reg#1368

MATTHEWS John Walter
Father Not named Mother  Emma Ivy MATTHEWS
At Carlton  1919  Reg#17512

I don't see a birth for a Raymond John in 1919. 

Birth Cert attached for Ellen Amy ROME born 17 Jan 1918 at Carlton.

     Cando,

Please accept my sincere apology.

 Things moved on very quickly from there and I think my focus was actually on the thought that Ivy Lily could have been the mother and trying to process her as that, and there not actually being an Alma......

And also the Rome fella was a distraction.

I'm very grateful to you for producing the certificate and I'm very sorry to not have acknowledged your contribution at that time.

Actually, it has just sunk in at this very minute, that that is a confirmation of Amy Ellen's parentage.
Thankyou for jolting me (Sometimes my family just look at me for ages, waiting for a response while my brain tries to process things)

Peg

[sparrett]

Sometimes in this forum and others like it, there is an assumption that  the full picture is grasped quickly by all participants in a thread. It is quite usual for contributors to  be confused with a lot of information coming in. No need to think you are alone in this!

Knowing quickly what to filter out or factor in is a matter of practice and experience and of course in this case, Cando's generous purchase was the clinching factor that automatically wiped out the whole SHEPHERD aspect of the research. It is her level of expertise that has enabled your solution

Mr ROME may always be a mystery.
Sue

[cando]

Oh I certainly agree with Sue.  So much information and not always connected immediately to the original request.

Peg no apologies required.  I was concerned that you hadn't noticed the post. 

I don't think Mr ROME actually existed.  Sadly misleading information is often given to the porter or member of the hospital staff, who carried out the registrations. 

Cheers