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Re: Mystery not who you say you are
« Reply #45 on: Friday 27 November 20 10:13 GMT (UK) »
Blimey I’m shocked and can’t thank you guys and John enough for all your help you’ve literally been amazing I wish I could hug you all!

I’m in shock, we’ve had this mystery of Nellie and who Cecilias father even my great aunts said Nellie has no family and the family that were living in Manchester street as per the Nellie who died in 1918 had a big family with cousins sometimes staying with them. I just always had a feeling that it wasn’t her family.

I think my Nellie ordered a birth certificate and got hold of another Nellie by mistake and maybe just went with it?

I can’t thank you guys enough really I’m so bloody grateful for all your help.

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Re: Mystery not who you say you are
« Reply #46 on: Friday 27 November 20 10:17 GMT (UK) »
Just wanted to join in swiftly to say what great research  :)

And how sad is it that someone really doesn't know who they are.......great glimpse into the lives of the late Victorians and the poor   :(
Pay, Kent. 
Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich.
Cotterill, Derbys.
Van Steenhoven/Steenhoven/Hoven, Nord Brabant/Belgium/East London.
Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
Thorpe, Brightlingsea, Essex

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Re: Mystery not who you say you are
« Reply #47 on: Friday 27 November 20 10:27 GMT (UK) »
So unusual to get the father's name as well. That is a huge bonus.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Mystery not who you say you are
« Reply #48 on: Friday 27 November 20 10:31 GMT (UK) »
Literally no ones has EVER known the identity of Cecilia’s  father not even poor Cecilia herself.

I’m so shocked in a good way.

Katie Hicks must be K-Catherine Hicks then.

Can anyone read the surname and profession for me I can’t quite make it out.


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Re: Mystery not who you say you are
« Reply #49 on: Friday 27 November 20 10:33 GMT (UK) »
It's William Clauss commercial clerk however if he is actually German it may be Willem Klaus
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Mystery not who you say you are
« Reply #50 on: Friday 27 November 20 10:43 GMT (UK) »
Agree with Ivor - wonderful reseach and thread

For those with access to Anc this looks like Kate's admission to St Paul's Bentinck School was on  27 Aug 1889 and her birth date listed as 28 Nov 1878  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01q2v/

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Re: Mystery not who you say you are
« Reply #51 on: Friday 27 November 20 11:03 GMT (UK) »
That's a good find - says Kate came from St Mary's - I wonder if Nellie is there in 1891? Also Kate entered under auspices of a Mrs Davies so no parents around.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Mystery not who you say you are
« Reply #52 on: Friday 27 November 20 11:32 GMT (UK) »
That's a good find - says Kate came from St Mary's - I wonder if Nellie is there in 1891? Also Kate entered under auspices of a Mrs Davies so no parents around.

The residence for Mrs Davies was 123 Marylebone Road.  It was a "waifs and strays society" children's home.

http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/MaryleboneOldQuebecWS/?LMCL=Wkl63N
Robbins - Wolverhampton.
Spooner - Monmouthshire & Wolverhampton.
Warner & Loundes - Dudley/West Bromwich.
Dod(g)son - Heysham/Liverpool/Wolverhampton

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Re: Mystery not who you say you are
« Reply #53 on: Friday 27 November 20 11:33 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if there are any archives of the Convent of the Daughters of the Cross? Maybe the Kent FHS may know. Might shed light on why she was there, parents etc.

Nellie had an amazing memory for names & addresses! Pity she doesn't say where she was before Margate at age 11.

Yes, I gathered Mrs Davies was a guardian for the waifs & strays.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON